New planes, anyone?

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Early War RAF bombers

Armstrong Whitworth Whitley

This one has been mentioned in some threads over the past couple of months, but didn't make that big of a splash.

Heavy Bomber
Crew- 5
Powerplant- Two 1,075 HP Rolls Royce Merlin X V-type in-line engines
Max Speed- 370 km/h (230 mph) at 5,000 m (16,400 ft)
Service ceiling- 26,000 ft (7,925 m)
Max Range- 2,400 miles (3,862 km)
Wingspan- 84 ft (25.60 m)
Length- 70 ft, 6" (21.49 m)
Height- 15 ft (4.57 m)
Weight- 33,500 lbs (15,195 kg)
Arament- 1x 7.62mm vickers mg in nose; 4x vickers mgs in tail gun; up to 3,175 kg of bombs (7,000 lbs)

Avro Anson


Recon/ light bomber/ some versions used for troop transport

Crew- 3-5
Powerplant- two 335HP Armstrong Siddeley Cheetah IX Radials
Max speed- 188 mph
Service Ceiling- 19,000 ft
Max Range- 790 miles
Wingspan, Length, Height- 56.5 ft (17.22 m), 42.25 ft (12.88 m), 13ft, 1" (3.99 m)
Weight- 9,300 lb (4,218 kg) loaded
Arament- 4x 7.62mm MGs (various cabin mountings [ or dorsal turrent ]) up to 500 lbs of bombs


Misc. Planeset (e.g. Czechs, rarer plane-types in the game)

Don't laugh, this is one that once more prominant aircraft are added, it could be a great addition to the game.
Avia B.534 (Czechoslovakia)

Crew- 1
Powerplant- One 850 HP Hispano-Suiza HS 12Y in-line engine
Max Speed- 245 mph
Ceiling- 34, 777 ft
Range- 360 miles
Length-26 ft, 10"
Wingspan-30 ft 10"
Height-10ft, 2"
Weight- Unloaded (3,219 lbs) Loaded (4,674 lbs)
Arament- 4x 7.7mm fixed forward firing MGs; up to 6x 20 kg bombs
Used in both combat and squads in WWII, namely against the Russians. Not the best performing aircraft but would be fun in some FSOs and against real combat situations.

Bloch MB. 151/152
French Fighter; crew of 1

Powerplant-one 1,080 HP Gnome Rhone 14N-25 14 cylinder radial engine (MB. 152)
Max speed- 316 mph (509km/h)
Ceiling- 10,000 m (32,808 ft)
Range- 335 miles (540 km/h)
Length: 9.10 m (29 ft 10 in)
Wingspan: 10.54 m (34 ft 7 in)
Height: 3.03 m (9 ft 11 in)
Weight- Empty (4758lb/ 2,158kg) Loaded (6,173 lbs/ 2,800 kg)
Arament- Gun package 1- 4x 7.5mm MGs; GP 2- 2x 7.5mm MGs PLUS 2x 20mm cannons


Bloch MB. 174

Recon bomber- crew of 3
Powerplant- 2x 1,140 HP Gnome-Rhone 14N 14-cylinder radial engines
Max Speed- 329 mph (530 km/h)
Ceiling- 36,090 ft (11,000 m)
Max Range- 798 miles (1,285 km) with a 400kg bombload
Wingspan- 58 ft, 8" (17.90 m)
Length-40 ft 2" (12.25 m)
Height-11 ft, 7" (3.55 m)
Weights- Loaded (15,784 lbs/7,160 kg) Empty (12,340 lb/ 5,600 kg)
Arament- up to 7x 7.5mm MGs. Max internal bombload of 400kg

What are your thoughts? Good ideas, bad ideas?

Jackson, Robert. The Encyclopedia of Military Aircraft. Bath, England: Parragon Pub., 2002. Print.

[Masherbrum]

My guess is two threads that were identical.   

[fbWldcat]

You would be correct. When I checked it didn't pop up. Tried posting again and both were sitting right there.
EDIT: I will however add a few planes to the other post. Typing from the book.

[fbWldcat]

The French Aircraft, especially, would help some FSOs. The bombers (RAF) could help Squad Ops such as Early war attacks on Italy.

[Pigslilspaz]

What? no short stirling?

[fbWldcat]

Not on the list of things I typed from the book. Would be a nice addition, though. I think a bomber that would be in the frontrunning above all these would be the Wellington. The Halifax would be next, but these are just some I pulled from the depths of overlooked history.

[BrownBaron]

There's already waaaaaay more allied stuff in the game than axis stuff....just sayin...

[Rino]

     So?     Not everyone is a Luftwobble, ya know. 

[JHerne]

Gimme a Fiat G.55, A-26 Invader, Ki-100 and J2M for late war.

Gimme a Fiat C.200, Beaufighter, and Ki-44 for mid-war.

Gimme a Gladiator, Do-17 and He-111 for early war.

Gimme a Panther, Tiger II, Jagdpanzer IV (L48 and L70), Jagdpanther, M36, Churchill, Artillery, JS-2, KV-85, Su-100, and perk accordingly, and I'll be happy.

Oh yea, and an M-18 Hellcat just so we can see what 321BAR has next on his list!!

And just for giggles - how about a Meteor F.3? It did see combat, about as much as the 163 did in terms of operations.

Sorry for the hijack - I'm bored.

[fbWldcat]

Brown Baron, I realize the allies have many more aircraft than the axis, but there is no early war bomber for the RAF whatsoever. There are also no French aircraft in the game. The French planeset is very deserving and one of the most unnoticed in the game (bluntly put, we have none, we need some).

[Saxman]

    So?     Not everyone is a Luftwobble, ya know. 

French aircraft were relevant for maybe a few months of the war at most, while the Free French Air Force used a large numbers of foreign-produced aircraft (Curtiss Hawks and P-40s, Spitfires, etc.). Would they be a nice add? Maybe in the future, but there's a lot more glaring gaps. And isn't the Lancaster available in the EWA? Technically, our Lanc SHOULDN'T be because it's a later mark, but that's beside the point...

Japanese are suffering more than all the other countries right now. Italy flew a lot of German crates, and Lend-Lease can at least fill in the gaps short-term for the Russians so these have valid plug-ins for now.

But when we have Bf-110s subbing in for Ki-45s, no early-war IJAAF fighter whatsoever, and Ki-67s replacing G4Ms over Guadalcanal and China something is very, VERY wrong.

[JC67]

YAK-9DD

[JHerne]

You and your Double-Ds...lol 

[1Boner]

But, what about the...........

And the ...........

And of course there are other "gaps" to fill 1st.

Your planes suk, my ideas are better.

What about MY needs?

[JHerne]

What about MY needs?

JC's got a line on Double Ds...talk to him.