new toy time (rifle)

[Plawranc]

You know whats coming Dont you vulcan

"ey bro,ya see thus, thus, us my buum stuck"

heheehhe 

[Reschke]

Personally we used to make suppressors out of 2 liter plastic bottles and steel wool for shooting rats on campus in college...around 1991-1994...before all the dip dunks decided to start blowing holes in people at school. I was using sub-sonic ammo back then in a single shot so you only heard the hammer drop or the "spak" sound when the round exploded into the concrete or asphalt beneath the rat with the rest of its guts. We seriously chopped down the population in about 5 weeks to almost nothing. That suppressor was good for about 5-10 shots before we had to start over. I later learned how to use an aluminum can with baffles and steel wool...from an armorer friend of my dad...and they would last a lot longer.

I am thinking of getting a stamp and a paying the fee for a suppressor for my .280 for when I take it to the range. That barrel is easily threaded since it doesn't have a sight at the end and I can get that done for free by the same man as above.

[dedalos]

Personally we used to make suppressors out of 2 liter plastic bottles and steel wool for shooting rats on campus in college...around 1991-1994...before all the dip dunks decided to start blowing holes in people at school. I was using sub-sonic ammo back then in a single shot so you only heard the hammer drop or the "spak" sound when the round exploded into the concrete or asphalt beneath the rat with the rest of its guts. We seriously chopped down the population in about 5 weeks to almost nothing. That suppressor was good for about 5-10 shots before we had to start over. I later learned how to use an aluminum can with baffles and steel wool...from an armorer friend of my dad...and they would last a lot longer.

I am thinking of getting a stamp and a paying the fee for a suppressor for my .280 for when I take it to the range. That barrel is easily threaded since it doesn't have a sight at the end and I can get that done for free by the same man as above.

Sounds safe and responsible.  You realize people like you are the reason gun laws have gotten out of hand?  Nah, you don;t lol.  As far as you know shooting rats on campus with a silencer on is perfectly safe and normal behavior after a few six packs lol.

[Reschke]

Naaaa it wasn't idiots like me in college that created the problem...it was the other idiots that sold their guns to the guys who never got drunk or wasted in college but always had that chip on his shoulder...those were the ones that caused the problems.

[oneway]

Sounds safe and responsible.  You realize people like you are the reason gun laws have gotten out of hand?  Nah, you don;t lol.  As far as you know shooting rats on campus with a silencer on is perfectly safe and normal behavior after a few six packs lol.

Fascinating concept..

Clue: your all in or your all out..

If a guy wants to cobble together a suppressor to shoot rats....how does that then justifiably translate into a conclusion that such action by congress is the "Reason" why they so readily infringe our rights as affirmed by Heller respective to the 2nd,  and known by gun owners for years?

You sound like one of those squishy middle guys that advocates that "Some Gun Control" is OK and readily accepts that the definition of "Some" is best decided by career politicians(aka potatos) in DC...

It doesn't work that way anymore...and it will never work that way anymore...

Heller has affirmed our inalienable rights...the next step is to incorporate it to the states...that will happen shortly...

And yes we may live in a world more risky...but it will be free world...and the scum bag punks and gang bangers who can get any gun they want, any time they want...will be forced to think twice...

Quit selling out the common man...the normal man who doesn't at the drop of the hat engage in drive by shootings and Columbine type massacres...

We are not that stupid and unreliable...and we are the vast Majority of gun owners (99.9%)

For god's sake man...we are simple Americans not interested in shackles...Trust us...we won't screw it up..we are not a threat...

Out

Oneway

[dedalos]

Fascinating concept..

Clue: your all in or your all out..

If a guy wants to cobble together a suppressor to shoot rats....how does that then justifiably translate into a conclusion that such action by congress is the "Reason" why they so readily infringe our rights as affirmed by Heller respective to the 2nd,  and known by gun owners for years?

You sound like one of those squishy middle guys that advocates that "Some Gun Control" is OK and readily accepts that the definition of "Some" is best decided by career politicians(aka potatos) in DC...

It doesn't work that way anymore...and it will never work that way anymore...

Heller has affirmed our inalienable rights...the next step is to incorporate it to the states...that will happen shortly...

And yes we may live in a world more risky...but it will be free world...and the scum bag punks and gang bangers who can get any gun they want, any time they want...will be forced to think twice...

Quit selling out the common man...the normal man who doesn't at the drop of the hat engage in drive by shootings and Columbine type massacres...

We are not that stupid and unreliable...and we are the vast Majority of gun owners (99.9%)

For god's sake man...we are simple Americans not interested in shackles...Trust us...we won't screw it up..we are not a threat...

Out

Oneway

Um nop.  You just don;t understand (you were shooting rats also maybe? lol).  See, I want to have a gun and now I can, but when I was back in Chicago, I could not.  I am not advocating gun control.  I am advocating being responsible with one.  When people take their guns in campus and start shooting rats, people get scared and they ask for control and the politicians that want the votes respond.  You see, when a bunch of guys start acting irresponsible with a gun it actual leads to me not having the right to own one.  If people were acting responsibly with them, there would probably not be so many laws.

So, if you want to shoot a gun go in a farm or a shooting range.  Drunk 20 year olds shooting rats in campus is not why the right to have a gun was given.  Act like that and you lose your right but the sad part is that you also take a way the right of the rest of us.  I want to have a gun and I don;t want the headbangers to have one.  However, I also don;t want idiots that think a gun is for shooting stop signs or rats in campus to have one.

If you think your right to have guns was given to you so you can shoot stop signs or rats in public places, you are also the reason the rest of us have such a hard time to own one.  Keep up the good work 

[Jayhawk]

Um nop.  You just don;t understand (you were shooting rats also maybe? lol).  See, I want to have a gun and now I can, but when I was back in Chicago, I could not.  I am not advocating gun control.  I am advocating being responsible with one.  When people take their guns in campus and start shooting rats, people get scared and they ask for control and the politicians that want the votes respond.  You see, when a bunch of guys start acting irresponsible with a gun it actual leads to me not having the right to own one.  If people were acting responsibly with them, there would probably not be so many laws.

So, if you want to shoot a gun go in a farm or a shooting range.  Drunk 20 year olds shooting rats in campus is not why the right to have a gun was given.  Act like that and you lose your right but the sad part is that you also take a way the right of the rest of us.  I want to have a gun and I don;t want the headbangers to have one.  However, I also don;t want idiots that think a gun is for shooting stop signs or rats in campus to have one.

If you think your right to have guns was given to you so you can shoot stop signs or rats in public places, you are also the reason the rest of us have such a hard time to own one.  Keep up the good work 

You're making a couple assumptions in this story that are just unfounded.
-He didn't say there were shooting drunk.  We're fighting for concealed carry on campus here and that's one argument people try to use, "do you want a bunch of frat guys running around drunk shooting guns".  It's an idiotic statement from people who don't know anything about gun ownership.  My point is that he didn't say it, so there is no reason to imply it.
-You're mixing two concepts of responsibility; shooting on campus and shooting guns.  How do you know they were shooting irresponsibly?  I doubt they were shooting into a crowd of people to get one rat, I'm sure he knew his surroundings, checked his background very carefully and it sounds like he never hurt anything.  As for it being responsible to be shooting on campus, that has a lot of variables that I just don't know and can't judge. 
-I can't for the life of me find a piece of 'shooting rats on campus' legislation.  It wasn't incidents like this that caused it, it's gross simplifications and misunderstandings on the part of the anti-gun crowd that cause the push for gun control.

You are very correct that demonstrating safe and responsible gun use is a key step towards the advancement of gun rights.  However, IMO the biggest thing going against gun rights is simple ignorance on the part of the anti-gun crowd.  I've said it before, if gun owners want their rights to stop being infringed upon, they have a responsibility to expose and talk to the non-gun crowd and quell their fears and stereotypes about gun owners.

[321BAR]

I knew RIGHT AWAY when this thread started that dweebs would turn it into a gun law argument and safety vs society BS. come on guys, another good thread ruined

[Jayhawk]

I knew RIGHT AWAY when this thread started that dweebs would turn it into a gun law argument and safety vs society BS. come on guys, another good thread ruined

I love discussing guns though!  Maybe one of us could start a "show us your guns" thread and just make sure to report those who try to hijack.  Actually... gimme a couple minutes here.

EDIT: There ya go: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,298427.0.html

[ebfd11]

here is a real REAL WV hunter

[mtnman]

Um nop.  You just don;t understand (you were shooting rats also maybe? lol).  See, I want to have a gun and now I can, but when I was back in Chicago, I could not.  I am not advocating gun control.  I am advocating being responsible with one.  When people take their guns in campus and start shooting rats, people get scared and they ask for control and the politicians that want the votes respond.  You see, when a bunch of guys start acting irresponsible with a gun it actual leads to me not having the right to own one.  If people were acting responsibly with them, there would probably not be so many laws.

So, if you want to shoot a gun go in a farm or a shooting range.  Drunk 20 year olds shooting rats in campus is not why the right to have a gun was given.  Act like that and you lose your right but the sad part is that you also take a way the right of the rest of us.  I want to have a gun and I don;t want the headbangers to have one.  However, I also don;t want idiots that think a gun is for shooting stop signs or rats in campus to have one.

If you think your right to have guns was given to you so you can shoot stop signs or rats in public places, you are also the reason the rest of us have such a hard time to own one.  Keep up the good work 

With an argument like that, I guess I should start worrying about my right to own a car. 

You wouldn't believe how irresponsibly people can behave while driving, even going so far as to drive drunk sometimes.  Around here though, they've been trying to punish the people who drive irresponsibly, rather than to take away everyone's vehicle (or to limit us to vehicles that meet the politicians views on what it's ok for us common-folk to own and drive).  Maybe that's the wrong tactic.  Maybe we need some form of vehicle control.

[dedalos]

How do you know they were shooting irresponsibly? 

  You are right, they were providing a service with their mind on safety first    Same service the guys shooting at stop signs provide.  I was not there to see them, but I am sure they did it sober and with safety in mind.  Keep feeding the guys that don't want us to own guns.  The more reasons you give them, the better they will do

[Jayhawk]

You are right, they were providing a service with their mind on safety first    Same service the guys shooting at stop signs provide.  I was not there to see them, but I am sure they did it sober and with safety in mind.  Keep feeding the guys that don't want us to own guns.  The more reasons you give them, the better they will do

For someone who claims to be pro-gun, you seem to have a lot of incorrect pre-conceived notions and stereotypes about gun owners.  Spent too long it Chicago, it rubbed off on ya.

EDIT: Maybe it's because I spend a good part of my time judging the reliability of research studies, but there is not enough information given for you to pass judgment on his actions. That's my point.

[Tec]

I'm pro gun, but making a suppressor to shoot rats on a campus is completely retarded.

[dedalos]

For someone who claims to be pro-gun, you seem to have a lot of incorrect pre-conceived notions and stereotypes about gun owners.  Spent too long it Chicago, it rubbed off on ya.

EDIT: Maybe it's because I spend a good part of my time judging the reliability of research studies, but there is not enough information given for you to pass judgment on his actions. That's my point.

Yes, pro-gun.  Pro-idiotic behavior no!  You can claim Chicago rubbed off on me as if that means something?    However we both know you are the guy shooting at stop signs, aren't ya?  The guy that I responded to did not get as bothered as you did.  Must have hit a nerve or something