What if we have titanic tuesdays everyday?

[caldera]

LOL then proxie kill from field ack is a loophole that seriously needs to be closed. All it does is promote lame game play,

However. I DO think that if your fighitng someone and can get them to eat a tree, Kiss the side of a barn or loop them into the ground. you should not only get kills awarded to your score. but perkies as well LOL

that at least takes some degree of skill to accomplish

Stay away from the field and it will never happen.  Let the guy get up and away from the ack if you want a decent fight.  If he runs, then 180 and try somewhere else. 

[Lusche]

IMO when the arenas split, AH stopped being a sim and became an arcade game. 

I may hate the caps, but I don't share that opinion

[DREDIOCK]

Stay away from the field and it will never happen.  Let the guy get up and away from the ack if you want a decent fight.  If he runs, then 180 and try somewhere else. 

LOL Well thank you captain obvious. LMAO kidding

That Is what I do. But what Im saying is all it does is reward people for not fighting. Which is kinda what this game is supposed to be about.
And Im not talking just about the guys that just up. im talking about guys that are also half a sector away from their base  and outright refuse to fight unless then have some sort of great advantage. Orr the ones that all they do is hang around their base to try to lure people into the feild ack.

Its a loophole that should be closed

[Guppy35]

Why not?

If we are down for "Internets Premier WW2 Combat experience" I think we should adopt (or rather re-adopt) a single main arena with numbers the closest we can get to total war (in WW2 fashion) as seen in air battle over English coast and the massive, epic air and ground tactical battle at Kursk  Speaking of Kursk I doubt this massive air/ground battle will ever be topped in the 21st century.

But what if I want 1944-45 with all the latewar birds.  The Axis then only gets brand new players while the Allied guys get all the vets and out number the Axis 10-1 or so every night.  We're talking 10,000 sorties to 100 with vets against newbs.  That's total war.  Kinda doubt that would go over very well.  You want Kursk?  OK all those latewar rides are gone.  You want English coast?  That's an awful lot of Spitfires.  Gotta believe the crowd would groan over that too.  You willing to go with one death and you never play again?  That's total war.  Don't think HTC will make much of a profit that way however.

This isn't total war, it's a game where folks can do lots of stuff beyond rolling bases and 'winning the war'.

[Lusche]

I think we should adopt (or rather re-adopt) a single main arena with numbers the closest we can get to total war (in WW2 fashion) as seen in air battle over English coast and the massive, epic air and ground tactical battle at Kursk  Speaking of Kursk I doubt this massive air/ground battle will ever be topped in the 21st century.

The closest you can get to this will never be the MA, regardless of player numbers. But you can find it in scenarios and FSO.

[Guppy35]

The closest you can get to this will never be the MA, regardless of player numbers. But you can find it in scenarios and FSO.

Amen

[Belial]

People are gonna play how they play whatever day it is...I enjoy TT the most


You log on...boom no decisions get into the arena and start fighting..

But the split arenas are here to stay I'm afraid

[96Delta]

When the arena split happened many players cancelled
their account and many more have since followed.

It killed squads wholesale.  How do I know?
I maintained a database of squads with email contacts. 
Fully 20% are no longer in existence since the split.
Yea, I kept track.

A small handful of players might like it, but I'm convinced that
a majority only endure the repeated insults they receive as they
try to log in to play with their squaddies only to be met with
a "full" arena.  To say this is irritating is an understatement.

Help me out here, when does irritating customers make sense in
business....any business?

Anyway, maybe you guys in the gangbangin' 80th are drinkin' the
Kool-Aid but I'm not...and I know I'm not alone. It has become the
single greatest complaint among current subscribers and for good
reason.

When I leave (and I've been contemplating it more and more lately)
it will be primarily because of the arena split.  Having some spare
time to play with my squad and being greeted with a full arena is
something I can only put up with for so long.

BTW, in a somewehat related question, has any country won a map
since the arena split?  Have any victory perkies been awarded? 
I used to love how everyone's blood was up as we neared victory. 
It was a real rush!  Does that ever happen anymore?  Or has
winning become politically incorrect in this chess game.

I'm glad I got a chance to play the original Aces High before
all these incremental changes were made though.  I've been playing
since late 2000 and can clearly see what's it become and where its
headed.

I'm sad to say that this game used to be awesome but little by
little it has degenerated into a colossal arcade game: a contest
without end and where victory is deliberately made unattainable.

This game is no longer addictive gentlemen.
It's best days are definitely behind it.

[Lusche]

It killed squads wholesale.  How do I know?
I maintained a database of squads with email contacts.  
Fully 20% are no longer in existence since the split.
Yea, I kept track.

But would they still be here without the split? Even before the split, only few squads did "survive" for more than a few years. Only 20% loss over the time of 4 years doesn't sound much to me.

BTW, in a somewehat related question, has any country won a map
since the arena split?  Have any victory perkies been awarded?  

Hundreds of times. Literally.

Even with the new, larger towns, the map was won. even in LWO.

I used to love how everyone's blood was up as we neared victory.  
It was a real rush!  Does that ever happen anymore?  

Yes.


And it was not the split itself that caused a reduction of won wars over a given time. Actually, as a rule of thumb, many more wars are won in smaller, less populated arenas.
It was the new rules for winning the war (= capturing territory of both opponents, instead of just being the country with most bases total when one country was reduced to smoking rubble). And this change was absolutely necessary, and one of the most resonable gameplay changes in AH so far.

[TEShaw]

The biggest problem with this: How will the world function with 7 Tuesdays?  Businesses with halt, world militaries will fall apart, and religions won't know when to meet.  At least we'll have plenty of time to play Aces High then!

GOOD ONE!  (Spell checker cannot differentiate 'with' from 'will'.)

[ghi]

When the arena split happened many players cancelled
their account and many more have since followed.

It killed squads wholesale.  How do I know?
I maintained a database of squads with email contacts. 
Fully 20% are no longer in existence since the split.
Yea, I kept track.

A small handful of players might like it, but I'm convinced that
a majority only endure the repeated insults they receive as they
try to log in to play with their squaddies only to be met with
a "full" arena.  To say this is irritating is an understatement.

Help me out here, when does irritating customers make sense in
business....any business?

Anyway, maybe you guys in the gangbangin' 80th are drinkin' the
Kool-Aid but I'm not...and I know I'm not alone. It has become the
single greatest complaint among current subscribers and for good
reason.

When I leave (and I've been contemplating it more and more lately)
it will be primarily because of the arena split.  Having some spare
time to play with my squad and being greeted with a full arena is
something I can only put up with for so long.

BTW, in a somewehat related question, has any country won a map
since the arena split?  Have any victory perkies been awarded? 
I used to love how everyone's blood was up as we neared victory. 
It was a real rush!  Does that ever happen anymore?  Or has
winning become politically incorrect in this chess game.

I'm glad I got a chance to play the original Aces High before
all these incremental changes were made though.  I've been playing
since late 2000 and can clearly see what's it become and where its
headed.

I'm sad to say that this game used to be awesome but little by
little it has degenerated into a colossal arcade game: a contest
without end and where victory is deliberately made unattainable.

This game is no longer addictive gentlemen.
It's best days are definitely behind it.

  Well said!
From the old chess game to all this sophisticated on line games there is a reason to  fight for, a goal to achieve , unfortunately this was eliminated in AH, there's nothing left to fight for and promote  the fights.

[Lusche]

 Well said!
From the old chess game to all this sophisticated on line games there is a reason to  fight for, a goal to achieve , unfortunately this was eliminated in AH, there's nothing left to fight for and promote  the fights.

Rubbish.

Bases are still captured, war's are still won. In all arenas. It's just no reset every two days anymore in LW. It is now a more worthy goal than the old gangbang run for reset.


---------------

Quick explanation for all players that haven't been in AH 5 years ago:

Today,to win the war one country must have 90% of it's own bases and 40% of each enemy's bases.
5 years ago, the rules were much different. When one country was down to 5 bases, the war was over. The winner was simply the country with most bases at that time.
The result was a constant gangin of the "smallest" country, because you had to. It was actually a detrimental for the both bigger countries to fight each other most of the time. Hence they were always piling on the smallest one. Constantly. You can imagine what these rules meant for gameplay.

Today, at one point they absolutely have to fight each other, or they don't win.
So unlike 5 years ago, there is a country truly "winning" the war.

So if you wanna bring chess into it: It's more chess today than it was with the old rules.

[Guppy35]

The argument that hundreds quit woould seem to fly in the face of Hitech's responses to this most every time.  I seriously doubt they'd have done the split if it was that disasterous for the player base.

My understanding is the numbers are better now in terms of subscribers.

[The Fugitive]

  Well said!
From the old chess game to all this sophisticated on line games there is a reason to  fight for, a goal to achieve , unfortunately this was eliminated in AH, there's nothing left to fight for and promote  the fights.

While smaller maps would help I think it's the players themselves that have slowly killed the game play in the arenas. GHI has a style of game play that contributes to this. It's his $15 so more power to him, but as one of the "known" mission planners and best base takers in the game his missions draw a lot of people. For better or worst many players will emulate his mission style as well. So now we have more players looking to NOE bases, horde bases, hit and run when the going gets tough type missions. More and more people see the win the war/avoid the fight as the way to play the game. Why, because that is how they see other play the game. The game is no longer about fighting, it's about avoiding the fight.

Small maps force hording, big maps provide hiding spots for those that look to avoid the fight. Medium sized maps might help, but again, map making is a player function at this time. I wish HTC would give a map maker  3 months free subscription. Of course you'd have to have someone that was tops in the map making field to double check it so he would have to have some free time as well. This would ease the load on Skuzzy to get these maps into rotation.

In the old days, back in AH1 the game was more about the fight. Sure their were NOEs, but not 20 of them in a row, nor were there more than 10 guys in them. Missions were flown, and the attacks were to the end, stubbornly so some times. Until the player base swings back toward the "fight" as the objective of the game we will be stuck with this poor style of game play.

[ebfd11]

OK if we go with 7 days of TT then it need to be changed evryday.

Sacrificial Sunday

Maniacal Monday

Titanic Tuesday

Wacked-out Wednesday

Throw Down Thursday

Fearsome Friday

Search and Destroy Saturday

And on the days a major holiday comes into effect Hitech's Horriday.


LOL