Brewster ENY needs to be lowered...

[JunkyII]

Last late war tour it scored the same as far as K/D as the hurri 2 c yet has double the ENY. I know it cant carry ord but its also seen quite a bit.

Its flat out the easier plane to fly. Handles better at high speed, guns are more accurate, and zooms a butt load better(thats right i said butt load).


I think their eny should be the same, but I would settle with the brew being a 15 eny.


 

[Tupac]

Eh, I'll give this a +1

Definitely not a 30 eny plane

[waystin2]

Where is Lusche with a numbers presentation?  waiting....

[FLOTSOM]

the Brew's munition is of lesser quality than the Hurri IIc's hispano's and it doesn't have the same level of armor protection. it does turn beautifully and it is surprising how well it can zoom, but it climbs like a rock. now the Hurri is not itself a great climber, but it will out climb the brew. additionally it will sustain it's E much better than the brew. they both take off and can start to turn aggressively just after wheels up at about the same level.

so with all things being generally considered i think the Hurri needs to have a lower ENY than the brew as it does out perform the brew in a couple of very important areas. the brew does not out perform the Hurri in any area, it can only claim that it is equal in some at most.

how much the ENY difference between the 2 should be..........well i don't know really. but i do feel there should be some difference between the two.

[Wmaker]

Last late war tour it scored the same as far as K/D as the hurri 2 c yet has double the ENY. I know it cant carry ord but its also seen quite a bit.

Its flat out the easier plane to fly. Handles better at high speed, guns are more accurate, and zooms a butt load better(thats right i said butt load).


I think their eny should be the same, but I would settle with the brew being a 15 eny.

I'm not going to be commenting to the Eny itself since the subject itself is highly subjective and there seems to be plenty of inconsistancies in the figures depending on who is talking about them or looking at them.

I will say that your "comparison" to the Hurricane was hilariously inaccurate and biased. Not that that suprised me at all.

[Lusche]

Where is Lusche with a numbers presentation?  waiting....

No charts, no numbers from me. Just one opinion: I'd say ENY 20-25 would be a better representation. 10-15 would be way too low. There is still a big difference between the Brew and the Winged Wirbel (Hurri IIC)

[FLOTSOM]

No charts, no numbers from me. Just one opinion: I'd say ENY 20-25 would be a better representation. 10-15 would be way too low. There is still a big difference between the Brew and the Winged Wirbel (Hurri IIC)

Grizz and a few other Muppet's call it the RGP (Rotating Gun Platform) when Ink flies it! i must say though that i like your description just a lil better 

[JunkyII]

I'm not going to be commenting to the Eny itself since the subject itself is highly subjective and there seems to be plenty of inconsistancies in the figures depending on who is talking about them or looking at them.

I will say that your "comparison" to the Hurricane was hilariously inaccurate and biased. Not that that suprised me at all.

Attack me lol.

I dont know if the FM is off compared to what YOUR charts say but the Brew in game is flat out easier to fly...

the Brew's munition is of lesser quality than the Hurri IIc's hispano's and it doesn't have the same level of armor protection. it does turn beautifully and it is surprising how well it can zoom, but it climbs like a rock. now the Hurri is not itself a great climber, but it will out climb the brew. additionally it will sustain it's E much better than the brew. they both take off and can start to turn aggressively just after wheels up at about the same level.

so with all things being generally considered i think the Hurri needs to have a lower ENY than the brew as it does out perform the brew in a couple of very important areas. the brew does not out perform the Hurri in any area, it can only claim that it is equal in some at most.

how much the ENY difference between the 2 should be..........well i don't know really. but i do feel there should be some difference between the two.

Hurri vs Brew in game Brew will win if you have = opponents. Now yes the hispanos are IMO better guns but thats not true for everyone. Alot of people would rather have the 50s especially in a slower plane for that added range.

Brew beats hurri in a dogfight. Good enough reason to have ENY lowered for the Brew

[Lusche]

I dont know if the FM is off compared to what YOUR charts say but the Brew in game is flat out easier to fly...

In my opinion: Not.


And on the guns: Range is not that important when tow relatively slow and turny birds meet each other. The Hispano has actually much better destructive power over range anyway (cannon shells vs solid bullets). Any short burst at any range by four  Hispanos will do much more damage than four .50 cals

[JunkyII]

In my opinion: Not.


And on the guns: Range is not that important when tow relatively slow and turny birds meet each other. The Hispano has actually much better destructive power over range anyway (cannon shells vs solid bullets). Any short burst at any range by four  Hispanos will do much more damage than four .50 cals

Your right but I was referring to a slow plane fighitng faster planes....easier to hit up when they are further away running/extending.

[Wmaker]

Attack me lol.

I didn't attack you at all, that's actually much more like your MO on this BBS. In your original post you forgot all the Brewster's weak points and dismissed any Hurricane's good points as if they didn't matter at all. So I called like I saw it; your "analysis" is hilariously biased.

Also I'm sure since you gave such an accurate verbal analysis (ie. zooms a butt load better ) of the Brewster's superiority in zoom-type climb compared to the Hurricane, you can provide some actual numbers from your extensive in-game testing? Right? Or have you done any testing at all?

Again, I won't comment on the Eny values of any plane as anyone's opinion on them is just that, a subjective opinion and nothing more. HTC ultimately makes decisions on the values and I settle at that. I however would like to see a new revised ENY system alltogether which would remove the subjectiveness of the current system, but that's a topic of a new thread.

[Boozeman]

Brewster ENY is ok.

I've flown it quite a bit lately and really enjoyed it when one guy after another fell into the T&B trap, but any other situation than that, it's has severe limitations.   

[guncrasher]

I'll never understand you guy's obsession with eny.  who cares what eny it has, they all die the same way .

semp

[Wiley]

Brewster ENY is ok.

I've flown it quite a bit lately and really enjoyed it when one guy after another fell into the T&B trap, but any other situation than that, it's has severe limitations.   

Question-  Do you start into the furball with alt?  I find that makes all the difference with the Brew.  If the Brew starts with advantage, I find it has crazy maneuvering/zoom climb capabilities.  I've never noticed the same with the Hurri 2, but to be honest I haven't flown it in a good long while.

In the Brew, I feel I can kill at will if I start with advantage.  Generally speaking if I am feeling that way flying something, that means it's borderline uber.

Wiley.

[JunkyII]

I'll never understand you guy's obsession with eny.  who cares what eny it has, they all die the same way .

semp

Lowers the reward for flying the plane.