ENY for the P-51

[321BAR]

Not you, you replied to a whats her name's bad troll.


ack-ack

ahh. then apologies bud <S>

Well, depends.  Mossie is definitely capable of TnBing the P-51. 

But i seem to have easy times fighting other aircraft in 110s...

[B4Buster]

Yes, they definately are capable.

[B4Buster]

Definitely*

[5PointOh]

Ok, I say we raise the D Ponys ENY to 5.000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000 1.  Forget about the B Pony, I mean who flies that thing anyway.  

[B4Buster]

Copr, I have PROOF you fly the B pony. I have a great screenie of myself in a B pony, escorting you and your half-winged B pony . Good times

[5PointOh]

Doh...I thought I got rid of the evidence...

[B4Buster]

Not quite all of it.  Did you finally log out of the lobby? I see you were in there for about 2 days. Passed out in the bathroom I assume.

[Plazus]

No, the Bf 110 nor the Mosquito are under-rated turning planes nor are they capable of angles (TnB) fighting just about anything.


ack-ack

You would think... I have surprised a great many people with the Mossie Mk.6 in an angles fight. Granted, it doesn't climb and accelerate as well as the P38, but can make up for it in its ability to turn. The plane is actually quite stable in a stall fight, and you can practically float with full flaps down. As long as one knows how to manage E, the Mossie will fair just fine in a low and slow fight. I've seen many a spit-driver dip his wing into the cartoon earth because he/she would try to match me in the stall fight.

Try flying a Mossie for a full tour in the MAs. I find her just as attractive as the Lightning.

[Ack-Ack]

You would think... I have surprised a great many people with the Mossie Mk.6 in an angles fight. Granted, it doesn't climb and accelerate as well as the P38, but can make up for it in its ability to turn. The plane is actually quite stable in a stall fight, and you can practically float with full flaps down. As long as one knows how to manage E, the Mossie will fair just fine in a low and slow fight. I've seen many a spit-driver dip his wing into the cartoon earth because he/she would try to match me in the stall fight.

Try flying a Mossie for a full tour in the MAs. I find her just as attractive as the Lightning.

I'm sorry to say that but that does not lend any credence that the Mosquito an under-rated turning plane with the capability to turn with almost anything.  All it shows is that you ran into a player that was vastly inferior to you and lost as a result, your typical case of the "it's the pilot, not the plane".

ack-ack

[Plawranc]

I was fighting a K4 pilot in a mossie BOMBER, and got behind him, he has all the advantages, even firepower. As he has guns  and I dont. I won in terms of ACM I got behind him level at 200.

He was not a 2 weeker either. Mossies are awesome, they can keep up with 38's 

[Plazus]

I'm sorry to say that but that does not lend any credence that the Mosquito an under-rated turning plane with the capability to turn with almost anything.  All it shows is that you ran into a player that was vastly inferior to you and lost as a result, your typical case of the "it's the pilot, not the plane".

ack-ack

Agreed. What I was trying to get at, though, is that most people tend to underestimate it. That in turn gets them shot down. I see most Mk.6 Mossies being used as bomb trucks, heavily loaded on ord and fuel. They almost always die because people don't understand the plane. As a result, people give it less credit than it deserves. But you are right, it is not under-rated... rather, it is under estimated.

[B4Buster]

I'm sorry to say that but that does not lend any credence that the Mosquito an under-rated turning plane with the capability to turn with almost anything.  All it shows is that you ran into a player that was vastly inferior to you and lost as a result, your typical case of the "it's the pilot, not the plane". ack-ack

An aircraft's turning capabilities do not magically increase when an experienced pilot takes off in it. The works are always there, making it a capable plane. Both factors are meshed together, but two different variables. your typical case of "I've never done it, so it can't happen". An inferior pilot isn't always to blame.

Having flown every plane in the set for a good amount of sorties, I can easily say the 110 and Mossie are some of the better fighters in game. Especially the 110C4b.

[guncrasher]

only reason mossies and 110's get lots of kills is because they ho like crazy anything that moves.  there's a couple of players that are pretty good at turning it, but they mostly run when in trouble.  they will use the mossie/110 as a pony with basically unlimited ammo and hit and run.  get it into a turning fite they will die easily.  as for the angles thing, it is just another way to bnz do a 2 or 3 second burst (spray) then run.


semp

[Karnak]

The Mossie is a good offensive platform but a relatively poor defensive platform.  When I use it I try my best to go offensive as early as possible, but the HO is reserved for situations in which I must get the numbers closer to even fast, or against Me262s or Me163s.  One on one I do not go for an the HO.

Used in a BnZ fashion, the Mossie is very good if you use it aggressively to pound the victim's E out and kill them.

There are certain fighters which it will out turn, in my experience.  The big ones in that category are the P-51s, P-47s and Fw190s.  You can turn with a mediocre pilot in Typhoon, Tempest, La-7, late Bf109 or possibly an F4U or P-38 driver who doesn't know about the flaps.

Spitfires, C.20Xs, Hurricanes, Bf110s, F6Fs, mid and early Bf109s, F4Fs, I-16s, anything Japanese, Brewsters, Yaks and P-40s should never be turned with.

[5PointOh]

Solar10 does some amazing things in a Mossie, he can float her, turn her and definitely make you more respectful of the Mossie.