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Offline EskimoJoe

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Might be getting Player Arenas
« on: October 16, 2010, 06:32:53 PM »
From the latest patch notes :

This patch changes the host data architecture and structure. There should be no change to the exterior workings of the game. This change is part of the development of hosted user spawned arenas of limited capacity.

Anyone else notice this?
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 06:36:53 PM »
Old news.  :D

It's been mentioned in other posts.
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 06:43:03 PM »
From the latest patch notes :

This patch changes the host data architecture and structure. There should be no change to the exterior workings of the game. This change is part of the development of hosted user spawned arenas of limited capacity.

Anyone else notice this?

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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 07:27:09 PM »
Old news.  :D

It's been mentioned in other posts.

same goes for this

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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 07:48:36 PM »
For paid subscribers.   The "freeloading" days are long gone.   

Yes, fortunately/unfortunately so (depending on who you ask).

Old news.  :D

It's been mentioned in other posts.

I failed to notice, oops  :o
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 03:09:39 AM »
1.) So you have to be a paying subscriber before you can access this aspect of the game?

2.) If so, then is it controled by HTC except that a player manages it like the AvA Team sets up the AvA?

3.) Are these still going to be the the Teen Tard Napoleon complex mini universes the old free ones were?

4.) I got evicted from one of those because I was spanking the baby seal owner. I hurt his feelings.

5.) I discovered in another you had to be freinds with the owner to survive his personal mods.<----he did take out feilds with unlimited bombs.

6.) A third one I failed to gain permission to even be there in the first place and got evicted because I wasen't on the list.

7.) I got yelled at repeatedly in another one by the teeny bopper running it that I wasn't using proper communications protocol every few minutes. He had killshooter off so I killed him and left.

Tiny little universes run by tiny little minds was my impression with the last go around. Will HTC be watching these more closely this time? Or will these just be kiddy pools for the baby seals to hide out in and play sand box napoleon until they decide they have the stones to play in the mean O'l MA's? What will be the new requirements and if any, and the commitment to HTC to be allowed to start one of these up? Or are they just going to be mini arena's with WW2 hardware run like an xBox twitch shooter Universe?

 
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 07:13:39 AM »
Well first off because they are being hosted by HTC, it makes it much easier for HTC to keep a semblance of control.

Second if someone boots you out of their arena without cause I'd send screenshot, film to support@hitechcreations.com

You might not see anything happen right away, but repeat offenders will eventually run afoul of skuzzy.

No one really knows the specifics yet, because we have not yet got our grubby little paws on it.
So we are all pretty much guessing.


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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 08:00:54 AM »
I would suspect it'll be the same as the old H2H, but hosted on the HTC systems so as not to include the server system in the client ala the old method.

As to being booted/whining about unfair play/etc. "My house, my rules." Besides the usual control over vulgarity, racism, etc, I think it ought to be left the way it was. If I'm host, I do as I like. If you don't want to deal with it, I'm not forcing you.
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 08:06:12 AM »
It was a riot to be able to create freak universes with crazy colors and wacky physics just to let off steam with my friends. Cutting off that ability to make others feel better would be rather irritating.
That is probably not going to be possible. Strictly from a speculation point of view, since they will be hosted/controlled by HTC, it will probably be like the other arenas and allow you to upload arena tables, custom terrains and offline missions but changing the pysics won't be possible.
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2010, 08:10:46 AM »
That is probably not going to be possible. Strictly from a speculation point of view, since they will be hosted/controlled by HTC, it will probably be like the other arenas and allow you to upload arena tables, custom terrains and offline missions but changing the pysics won't be possible.

"Changing the physics" involves changing the wind. So...

Tables will likely not be used from my point of view. Those are hosted server-side, and would likely cause quite a pileup of files that serve little or no use since you can save the arena settings locally as it is. A table is just a "save file" of the Arena Settings tab...so it'd be the same method as the old H2H arenas.

I also imagine terrains would be handled the same way as before; downloaded from the host's computer. Keep in mind that the biggest reason for shifting to HTC-hosted arenas is the control it gives them over what systems go into our clients, not neccesarily that it allows them to specifically moderate or control the arena setups. Not only would that be a support nightmare, but they could have done that in the old method if they wanted to.
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2010, 08:35:50 AM »
7.) I got yelled at repeatedly in another one by the teeny bopper running it that I wasn't using proper communications protocol every few minutes. He had killshooter off so I killed him and left.



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I think I was at the same one, I also did the same thing.
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2010, 09:17:03 AM »
Tables will likely not be used from my point of view. Those are hosted server-side, and would likely cause quite a pileup of files that serve little or no use since you can save the arena settings locally as it is. A table is just a "save file" of the Arena Settings tab...so it'd be the same method as the old H2H arenas.

I also imagine terrains would be handled the same way as before; downloaded from the host's computer. Keep in mind that the biggest reason for shifting to HTC-hosted arenas is the control it gives them over what systems go into our clients, not neccesarily that it allows them to specifically moderate or control the arena setups. Not only would that be a support nightmare, but they could have done that in the old method if they wanted to.
Uh, no. The arena tables are quite small, they control the arena settings and they must be uploaded to the arena in order to work properly, the local pc does not have control over the settings on the arena. Since the arenas will be HTC hosted, they will have to be uploaded, not like the old H2H arenas where a players computer was the arena. As for the terrains they are client/server files so both the arena and the player pc needs to have the terrain loaded.
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2010, 10:44:50 AM »
1.) So you have to be a paying subscriber before you can access this aspect of the game?

2.) If so, then is it controled by HTC except that a player manages it like the AvA Team sets up the AvA?

3.) Are these still going to be the the Teen Tard Napoleon complex mini universes the old free ones were?

4.) I got evicted from one of those because I was spanking the baby seal owner. I hurt his feelings.

5.) I discovered in another you had to be freinds with the owner to survive his personal mods.<----he did take out feilds with unlimited bombs.

6.) A third one I failed to gain permission to even be there in the first place and got evicted because I wasen't on the list.

7.) I got yelled at repeatedly in another one by the teeny bopper running it that I wasn't using proper communications protocol every few minutes. He had killshooter off so I killed him and left.

Tiny little universes run by tiny little minds was my impression with the last go around. Will HTC be watching these more closely this time? Or will these just be kiddy pools for the baby seals to hide out in and play sand box napoleon until they decide they have the stones to play in the mean O'l MA's? What will be the new requirements and if any, and the commitment to HTC to be allowed to start one of these up? Or are they just going to be mini arena's with WW2 hardware run like an xBox twitch shooter Universe?

 


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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2010, 12:36:43 PM »
This doesnt mean we are gonna start taking long walks in the moon light does it....... :confused:
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Re: Might be getting Player Arenas
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2010, 01:17:44 PM »
This doesnt mean we are gonna start taking long walks in the moon light does it....... :confused:

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