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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #195 on: October 22, 2010, 10:04:25 AM »
Oh dear the Germans off again, dust off those tin hats. :neener:

European Union has been championed by the French and Germans for years now it's gone pear shaped they start moaning. :x

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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #196 on: October 22, 2010, 01:46:21 PM »
Not capable of having a conversation unless we agree with your ignorance.   :aok

Says the man who claims you aren't allowed to legally immigrate from Mexico...


See?  Given the choice, she went through the legal venue.

I've got news for you buddy: EVERYONE has a choice between the legal and illegal route.

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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #197 on: October 22, 2010, 01:59:25 PM »
Says the man who claims you aren't allowed to legally immigrate from Mexico...


I've got news for you buddy: EVERYONE has a choice between the legal and illegal route.


You guys attract each other eh?  Look I may be right or I may be wrong, but I did not come out attacking any one like your buddy and you did.  So what is your theory then?  Why do they pay thousands of dollars to a guide to get them through illegally?  Why not just pay less money for the visas that are freely given to them?  Is it because they don;t want any benefits?  Do you think these things through or do you just assume they are criminals because of the way they look?  You sound like you ignored everything I said and tried to defend your buddy.  So, if they do have the choice, why do they risk their lives crossing the border?  I am interested to know what you think the reason is.

Thank you, Buddy  :lol
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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #198 on: October 22, 2010, 02:01:57 PM »
You guys attract each other eh?  Look I may be right or I may be wrong, but I did not come out attacking any one like your buddy and you did.  So what is your theory then?  Why do they pay thousands of dollars to a guide to get them through illegally?  Why not just pay less money for the visas that are freely given to them?  Is it because they don;t want any benefits?  Do you think these things through or do you just assume they are criminals because of the way they look?  You sound like you ignored everything I said and tried to defend your buddy.  So, if they do have the choice, why do they risk their lives crossing the border?  I am interested to know what you think the reason is.

Thank you, Buddy  :lol


RESPONSIBILITY.

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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #199 on: October 22, 2010, 02:05:25 PM »
RESPONSIBILITY.



 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

oh man, not even you believe that.

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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #200 on: October 22, 2010, 02:22:08 PM »
RESPONSIBILITY.



Well CAP, at list you are talking about it.  These guys don't.  My answer to what you said is that my responsibility towards my kids takes priority.  As I said, if my kids are hungry and I know there is food across the border and the only choice is to cross illegally, I am crossing.

Just to be clear though.  Your answer to my question on why are they crossing illegally if they can do it legally is "RESPONSIBILITY"?  So the only reason in your mind is that they are all irresponsible?  I can only smile at that, shake my head, and move on.  :lol
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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #201 on: October 22, 2010, 02:28:58 PM »
Well CAP, at list you are talking about it.  These guys don't.  My answer to what you said is that my responsibility towards my kids takes priority.  As I said, if my kids are hungry and I know there is food across the border and the only choice is to cross illegally, I am crossing.

Just to be clear though.  Your answer to my question on why are they crossing illegally if they can do it legally is "RESPONSIBILITY"?  So the only reason in your mind is that they are all irresponsible?  I can only smile at that, shake my head, and move on.  :lol

 first off....i didn't mean to type that in caps lock........my invoicing program needs caps lock on........

now...i understand your point. but it costs them more to cross illegally, i think, than it does legally. so they spend money that could be feeding their families....assuming they really are trying to do that.....than they would if they crossed legally.
 then they have to spend time, money, and effort hiding from authorities....well....not really anymore.....but you see the point.

 if i'm going to spend money to try to get somewhere to feed my family, i'm gonna spend as little as i can.

as for my "responsibility" comment.......they may well be responsible in their home country. but they want to come here, and reap the benefits of living here, without taking on the responsibilities of the society that they live in while here.
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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #202 on: October 22, 2010, 02:30:32 PM »
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

oh man, not even you believe that.

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uumm...yea, i do.

when i have a guy(the one i called ins on a couple of years ago) bragging about pa giving him a lisence even though he's not here legally.....ya i so.
 when this same person answers my question of "why not just get your papers?" with "why?",,,,,,yes i do.
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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #203 on: October 22, 2010, 02:34:56 PM »
first off....i didn't mean to type that in caps lock........my invoicing program needs caps lock on........

now...i understand your point. but it costs them more to cross illegally, i think, than it does legally. so they spend money that could be feeding their families....assuming they really are trying to do that.....than they would if they crossed legally.
 then they have to spend time, money, and effort hiding from authorities....well....not really anymore.....but you see the point.

 if i'm going to spend money to try to get somewhere to feed my family, i'm gonna spend as little as i can.

as for my "responsibility" comment.......they may well be responsible in their home country. but they want to come here, and reap the benefits of living here, without taking on the responsibilities of the society that they live in while here.

So we agree then?  But the question remains.  Why go through all that trouble if coming here legally is not a problem.  Are they all just stupid?
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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #204 on: October 22, 2010, 02:55:17 PM »
So we agree then?  But the question remains.  Why go through all that trouble if coming here legally is not a problem.  Are they all just stupid?

no........they do not wish to accept the responsibility of becoming a legal citizen.
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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #205 on: October 22, 2010, 03:12:17 PM »
no........they do not wish to accept the responsibility of becoming a legal citizen.

 :lol i hope that helps you justify your feeling towards them. 
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« Reply #206 on: October 22, 2010, 03:26:51 PM »
if they weren't stealing everything every second of every day, i would welcome them.
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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #207 on: October 22, 2010, 03:28:50 PM »
if they weren't stealing everything every second of every day, i would welcome them.

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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #208 on: October 22, 2010, 04:56:44 PM »
mexicons crossing German border it's as bad as that!
No wonder merkel dusting down colditz castle :)
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Re: Angela Merkel
« Reply #209 on: October 22, 2010, 05:08:37 PM »
You guys attract each other eh?  Look I may be right or I may be wrong, but I did not come out attacking any one like your buddy and you did.  So what is your theory then?  Why do they pay thousands of dollars to a guide to get them through illegally?  Why not just pay less money for the visas that are freely given to them?  Is it because they don;t want any benefits?  Do you think these things through or do you just assume they are criminals because of the way they look?  You sound like you ignored everything I said and tried to defend your buddy.  So, if they do have the choice, why do they risk their lives crossing the border?  I am interested to know what you think the reason is.

Thank you, Buddy  :lol


I've already said it, because LEGAL immigration is a LONG, DIFFICULT process, as well it should be, because it ENSURES that these people UNDERSTAND the country and culture they are coming in to, and will be able to ASSIMILATE into the culture, rather than cling to their old culture and make us miserable.