Do the german mg 131s have HE rounds belted in?

[milesobrian]

but my real question is bout the 13mm bullets being made as HE...this seems weird to me and makes me wonder how effective they were considering many other nations did not make their 50 cal have HE in them....

[Saxman]

They could, and it may happen in the future, they just don't see a big advantage out of it.

The one thing I don't want to see is players allowing to set up their own belt sequences.  We don't need everybody and his uncle setting up completely non-historical belts of 100% Minengeschoß rounds.

I'd say have a selection of a variety of belt options in the hangar allowing a degree of customization, but with specific loads.

[milesobrian]

I'd say have a selection of a variety of belt options in the hangar allowing a degree of customization, but with specific loads.

+1 MODEL DIFFERENT AMMO AND AMMO LOADOUTS...


EVEN A CRAP game like ww2ol can manage this...you can even tell the type of round you are shooting when they hit something, an AP dosent expload and the game reflects this the HE  explodes when it hits ground or even after it travels a certain amount...

[Charge]

"I've never seen anything that supports the MG151/20 ever carrying a full belt of Minengeschoß.  One in five rounds is what I understand was historical."

Well, the beltings that the pilots requested could be almost anything but the standard beltings listed in Galland's Schiessfibel from 1944 lists these: against bombers 1 Pz + 1 Brand + 1Mine, against all other targets, 1 Pz + 1 Brand + 3 Mine. The composition of tracers was up to pilots discretion. The 1+1+3 belting raises the hitting power of 151/20 roughtly to same level as that of Hisso, which we do not have in AH, AFAIK.

When the minengescoss was introduced it was mixed also with earlier and weaker HE which was obviously phased out of service by 1944. You can recognize the predecessor of MG151/20 the MGFF/M from suffix to be able to shoot also Mine rounds.

In WW2OL you can see the standard belting to consist one AP and probably 2 HE and 2 Mine when you fire five rounds and after 800-900 meters the self-destruct fuse of the HEs and Mines go off so four black puffs of smoke are visible (and if they explode near you they let out quite a bang!).

-C+

[Die Hard]

but my real question is bout the 13mm bullets being made as HE...this seems weird to me and makes me wonder how effective they were considering many other nations did not make their 50 cal have HE in them....

Even if you're banned I'll answer the question: Most WWII .50 cal class machineguns used a chemical component in the ammunition. The USAAF/RAF and Soviets typically used incendiaries while the Germans and Italians used a combination of HE and incendiary.

Heres an Italian fighter shooting up a P-40 with its 12.7 mm Bredas... Followed by a nice montage pf P-47 gun camera footage in color:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4IUYA3nTuA&p=9D2502A1CBB8BEF1&playnext=1&index=52

[Babalonian]

IDK WW2 Standards but in the 80's-90's we placed the tracer/whatever every 6th round for the M2 50cal.


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besides tracers being more expencive, check the specs, but I'd almost bet $5 that your circa 80-90s Mdeuce has a 10-20% higher rate of fire than the circa 30-40s models, justifying the stretch.