Author Topic: V5-5500 video stuttering (Read 1039 times)

eagl · « **on:** October 21, 2000, 08:49:00 PM »

I'm getting a lot of video stuttering both online and offline with my new video card. I remember some stuttering with my old setup (voodoo2 SLI) but nothing like this. Even with framerates in the mid-20s and higher, whenever I roll or have a high pitch or yaw rate, the video starts stuttering badly enough that it's like having double vision. The faster I roll, the worse the stuttering and double vision.

I get this at all resolutions, color depths, and with FSAA turned on and off. I have eliminated all shared IRQs (that only took 3 days) and I still have the problem.

In addition to the stuttering, the roll rate seems to be inconsistent depending on how much stuttering is present and how many objects are in view. For example, if I look away from the field and roll, I'll see some stuttering and the roll will appear "normal", but as soon as the airfield rotates into view, the stuttering will increase and the roll rate will change slightly. This also happens when the view transitions from looking at the sky to looking at the terrain while rolling.

I am using the current "latest" drivers off of the 3dfx web site. I am using a Celeron 300A at 450mhz. I have also tried changing refresh rates with no effect.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Staga · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2000, 01:27:00 PM »

Maybe Lephturn could help ?
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum10/HTML/000438.html

bloom25 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2000, 06:55:00 PM »

Go to www.3dfxgamers.com/boards.asp then to the v4/v5 tech support forum.

This seems to be a huge problem with this card. There is some leaked new drivers that I saw that claim to fix this.

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Lephturn · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2000, 07:36:00 AM »

I don't see it as a huge problem, by that I mean that Eagl is the first one I've heard with this problem. I have a V5 that works perfectly, and I know of about 5 others who have no problems.

Eagl and I are in the same squad, so we have been talking about this issue on Pigmail (TM) extensively.

Basically, there are a few of us with Voodoo 5's now, and Eagl is the only one with this problem. I have not heard of this problem from anybody else.

Eagl has been swapping parts out and trying to be sure his card isn't sharing resources with anything else. Past that, the next trick will be mucking with the AGP settings in BIOS to see if that has any effect.

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gospel · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2000, 01:56:00 PM »

"Basically, there are a few of us with Voodoo 5's now, and Eagl is the only one with this problem. I have not heard of this problem from anybody else."

Time to hear from someone else

I have the stuttering problem too. But only online in 32 bit color. Funny thing, i've two isp's that I use, AOL, and a local isp that I use for aces high. AOL does not have the studdering problem, but the other isp does. I've checked the settings on the dial up networking, etc, but have not been able to resolve the problem.

The stuttering problem seems to go away or is reduced if I use 16 bit color.

I also have problems getting the frame rates to increase in 32 bit color, no matter what settings I select, refresh rates, or even overclocking the card or cpu, I am stuck at avg 28 fps. This is not bad, and playable, but i am a tweaker, and want to eek a little more out of the card

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I suspect that my monitor is limiting the frame rates, but that is not the cause of the stuttering.

That P300 o/c'd to 450 may be marginal for the VD5500. I've read on the 3dfx bds that a min of P3600 is better.

Besides the few bugs this card has, and only with aces high, it is an impressive card. The 2x FSAA has to be seen to be believed!!!

If you find a solution to the stuttering, please post it.

bloom25 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2000, 02:43:00 PM »

Gospel, did you look on that message board link I posted above. There were at least 5+ posts I saw on there in the first 3 pages about this. Many of them had links to newer drivers that supposedly fixed it. (Also improves compatibility with VIA chipsets.)

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eagl · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2000, 03:28:00 PM »

I'll check out the other webbs. I'll also try using 16 bit color, but that option is really unattractive since one of the major reasons I upgraded was to get away from 16 bit color.

I'm not too keen on trying out every set of beta drivers that comes out either, but I suppose I'll do what I have to do. I'm currently using the "latest" release drivers, the ones that cause the text fuzziness near the top and bottom of the screen.

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Lephturn · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2000, 04:49:00 PM »

Guys, what AGP settings are you using. What is your AGP apature set to and how much RAM do you have?

Maybe it's nothing, but I can compare what you guys have to what I have and see if we can find any problems.

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Just thinking 'bout my baby and lettin' her rip, always got me through so far."
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gospel · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2000, 05:00:00 PM »

Eagl, did you try downloading the overclocking utility and setting your refresh rate to 85 mhz? This helped for me. I also completely removed the old drivers and started over with a fresh install.

Bloom, thx for the link to 3dfxgamers.com. I read through the board. The leaked drivers might help as I have a Asus P3VX4 mobd &via chip. but I think I will wait for a while. I don't want to mess with my pc until after africa corps is done

. And by then, those drivers may be officially released by 3dfx.

BTW, where the heck is Veneta?

Oh, just read your post Lepht., I am using agp2x, 64 or 128 meg apature, tried both, and have 256 meg of ram, PIII 600 EB, Asus P3VX4 mobd. Princeton grahpics ultra 75 17" monitor. Frame rates usually stay at 28 but temp. go into high 40's or 50, and low 20's when it gets busy. The fps are not too bad, just the stuttering.

Thanks, again.

gospel

[This message has been edited by gospel (edited 10-23-2000).]

eagl · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2000, 09:01:00 PM »

I have not tried the clock utility.

I changed the 3dfx tool AGP setting from "auto" to AGP2X. My AGP aperture is set to 64 meg and I have 128 meg total.

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bloom25 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 23, 2000, 09:12:00 PM »

Veneta is W of Eugene out Hwy 126. (I actually live in a little town called Crow a couple miles from Veneta.)

Why do you ask, do you live in Oregon?

There are quite a few people that I know of that live here. Mars, Tom24, paintMAW, AKDejaVu, Milenko, SOB, and a few more.

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Ripsnort · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2000, 07:54:00 AM »

Hiya Eagl,
I just thought I'd mention this, though you probably already know...it may be a background app running while playing, it happened to me, and I disabled 'FastFind' along with a couple other programs, no stuttering now.

Eagler · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2000, 08:00:00 AM »

My v5500 works very well. Here are my specs:

AH running 32 bit 1280 x 1024, I do not have "Z buffer" or "disable triple buffer" checked.

Refresh rate is the default,haven't tried overclocking.

FSAA set to 2x never 4x, sometimes off. Can't really tell much diff btwn 2x and off (fastest). Both have great looking graphics to my old eyes

My card and monitor are set up for 100Mhz resolution. (19" Micron/Sony Trinitron)

Abit BE6 (the first one)

500Mhz P3 CPU

128 meg of ram with AGP port set to 128 in BIOS (don't know what that really does)

I have Road Runner Cable modem for ISP.

Frame rates from 20 to >100 fps depending on scene/activity.

Be sure to verify your graphics card is not sharing an IRQ. I've had issues with IRQ conflicts ranging from sound card to NIC to ATA66 controller to USB controller. Assigning an individual IRQ to all the above helped me. (Had to disable both comm ports to get enough IRQ's to do that)

Good Luck

Eagler

gospel · « **Reply #13 on:** October 24, 2000, 12:52:00 PM »

Hmm, I will look to see if my vid card is sharing an icq. Would another way be to uninstall all hardware, do a reinstall of win98, and then add the hardware, modem, sound card, etc. bac in one by one? Or would that still possibly cause sharing of an icq?

Bloom, I asked because I live in portland, and never heard of Veneta

. Ever been to the air museum in Tillamook? One of my favorite places to visit

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Eagler · « **Reply #14 on:** October 24, 2000, 01:44:00 PM »

gospel
The Abit BIOS allows you to assign IRQ's. I was able to give my sound card IRQ5 through the BIOS and tell it to assign an interrupt for the USB. Freeing up my comm port irq's helped as my SCSI controller needed one and the ATA66 controller needed one. Look under system in control panel and see if anything is sharing the same irq and try to switch them around. The abit board describes in the manual how slot 4 & 5 (PCI) will share an irq while slot 3 shares with the ATA66 controller. Knowing your motherboard will help, check its manual.
good luck
Eagler