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Offline JHerne

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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2010, 12:42:58 PM »
Sorry, He-111 didn't carry the Fritz X into combat. It was tested with the 111, but in combat, the 217 K-2, K-3, and M-11s.

The 177 was also planned, but again, didn't see combat with it.

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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2010, 12:52:04 PM »
321 just as an FYI the M18 came up in discussion at con. Pyro's short answer, its just too good, would make all other GV's irrelevant and have a huge negative impact on gameplay even if perked.

i have no understanding on this line of logic.

yes the M18 was fast (fastest of the tank destroyers) but that was only useful on open ROADS, it was still a multi-ton (17ish) piece of metal when it was off road thus the actual speed was dictated by terrain.

it has a skin about as durable as an orange peal. 0.2 to 1.0 inches. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_Hellcat for M18 stats, yes its wikkie but i cant find anything to contradict it) this translates to meaning that a solid .50 cal burst would not only penetrate most of its hull (see http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/mg/50_ammo.html for .50 cal stats) but would easily kill the crew inside, additionally any 20mm or bigger round striking it would decimate the M18. this ease of destruction is also true for any bomb landing near it or any HE shell landing close. you would have to park 3 of these abreast to stop an AP round fired from a tiger at close range!

its an egg shell with a cannon. in the real world it served its purpose efficiently because the allies held air superiority, without it this vehicle would have been destroyed en-mass on the field. as it would be in our arena's, providing the armor is modeled correctly, and it's use of super high speed on open terrain comes with consequences (hell if a sheep could flip a 50 ton tiger at 20 mph what would it do to an M18 at 50?  :devil ). almost every plane in the game could destroy or disable it without ords of any kind.

so go ahead put it in, model it correctly and I'm gonna laugh watching the screaming on 200 and counting all the "MY UBBER M18 GOT KILLED BY A........." threads that will in no time flood this board.
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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2010, 12:56:07 PM »
i have no understanding on this line of logic.

yes the M18 was fast (fastest of the tank destroyers) but that was only useful on open ROADS, it was still a multi-ton (17ish) piece of metal when it was off road thus the actual speed was dictated by terrain.

it has a skin about as durable as an orange peal. 0.2 to 1.0 inches. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_Hellcat for M18 stats, yes its wikkie but i cant find anything to contradict it) this translates to meaning that a solid .50 cal burst would not only penetrate most of its hull (see http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/mg/50_ammo.html for .50 cal stats) but would easily kill the crew inside, additionally any 20mm or bigger round striking it would decimate the M18. this ease of destruction is also true for any bomb landing near it or any HE shell landing close. you would have to park 3 of these abreast to stop an AP round fired from a tiger at close range!

its an egg shell with a cannon. in the real world it served its purpose efficiently because the allies held air superiority, without it this vehicle would have been destroyed en-mass on the field. as it would be in our arena's, providing the armor is modeled correctly, and it's use of super high speed on open terrain comes with consequences (hell if a sheep could flip a 50 ton tiger at 20 mph what would it do to an M18 at 50?  :devil ). almost every plane in the game could destroy or disable it without ords of any kind.

so go ahead put it in, model it correctly and I'm gonna laugh watching the screaming on 200 and counting all the "MY UBBER M18 GOT KILLED BY A........." threads that will in no time flood this board.
this is exactly what i thought! why would it destabilize the game when anything (even M8s) can kill it?
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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2010, 01:15:55 PM »
this is exactly what i thought! why would it destabilize the game when anything (even M8s) can kill it?

an M8? hell even a jeep could run up on it and stand a good chance of destroying or disabling it!!! http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Jeep
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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2010, 01:32:05 PM »
Sorry, He-111 didn't carry the Fritz X into combat. It was tested with the 111, but in combat, the 217 K-2, K-3, and M-11s.

The 177 was also planned, but again, didn't see combat with it.

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He-177 did see combat, it was used against shipping and bridges and german pilots discovered that if they maintained a 1k fpm decent the could average 400mph on the flight home
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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2010, 01:48:21 PM »
i have no understanding on this line of logic.

yes the M18 was fast (fastest of the tank destroyers) but that was only useful on open ROADS, it was still a multi-ton (17ish) piece of metal when it was off road thus the actual speed was dictated by terrain.

it has a skin about as durable as an orange peal. 0.2 to 1.0 inches. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_Hellcat for M18 stats, yes its wikkie but i cant find anything to contradict it) this translates to meaning that a solid .50 cal burst would not only penetrate most of its hull (see http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/mg/50_ammo.html for .50 cal stats) but would easily kill the crew inside, additionally any 20mm or bigger round striking it would decimate the M18. this ease of destruction is also true for any bomb landing near it or any HE shell landing close. you would have to park 3 of these abreast to stop an AP round fired from a tiger at close range!

its an egg shell with a cannon. in the real world it served its purpose efficiently because the allies held air superiority, without it this vehicle would have been destroyed en-mass on the field. as it would be in our arena's, providing the armor is modeled correctly, and it's use of super high speed on open terrain comes with consequences (hell if a sheep could flip a 50 ton tiger at 20 mph what would it do to an M18 at 50?  :devil ). almost every plane in the game could destroy or disable it without ords of any kind.

so go ahead put it in, model it correctly and I'm gonna laugh watching the screaming on 200 and counting all the "MY UBBER M18 GOT KILLED BY A........." threads that will in no time flood this board.


+1 also.

It has the same gun as the M4-76 in game now as well.  It would just be a big, perked M-8.


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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2010, 01:50:26 PM »
GVs always seem to travel at max speed on the flat - but it should really depend on the terrain. Wheeled vehicles suffer far more than tracked vehicle over soft/bumpy ground. That's why roads were kinda strategic.

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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2010, 06:50:00 PM »
With all of the new bombers being added....

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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2010, 08:16:09 PM »
He-177 did see combat, it was used against shipping and bridges and german pilots discovered that if they maintained a 1k fpm decent the could average 400mph on the flight home
You misunderstood him.  The He177 saw combat.  It did not see combat with the Fritz X or Henschel Hs293.
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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2010, 10:39:40 PM »
I was under the impression that it used the Hs 293 in the bridge raids, I may be wrong though
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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2010, 12:59:23 AM »
Bring in the He-111 with the next update  :aok

ops your a little late, there already working on something and i cant what to see it.
but i do wish the he-111 was as high on hitechs to add list as it is on my withlist.
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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2010, 01:14:07 AM »
The to planse I want to see on this game before the years end is the He-111 and the CAC Boomerang

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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2010, 01:40:34 AM »
Pe-2, Tu-2, or Il-4 are more needed then the boomerang
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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2010, 03:32:47 AM »
Pe-2, Tu-2, or Il-4 are more needed then the boomerang

the XF5U flying pancake?

lol jk i dont tink this plane applys to Any of the standards of adding a plane to aceshigh.
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Re: Don't disappoint us, HiTech...
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2010, 05:36:57 AM »
The to planse I want to see on this game before the years end is the He-111 and the CAC Boomerang

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