Alaska F-22 MIA

[RTHolmes]

theyre stealthy, not cloaked

afaik modern A2A radars can see and track raptors ok, just not accurately or consistently enough to get a missile lock while they are maneuvering. I assume the raptors radar is at least capable of seeing another raptor within a few miles?

[Megalodon]

early 80s i think akak think last name was begich. marc begich is in alaskas politics think thats the congressman son, they still havent found the wreckage i think of that begich crash.
 and yes they found the wreckage of the F22 but no pilot yet.

16 October 1972 - House Majority Leader Hale Boggs of Louisiana and Representative Nick Begich of Alaska were lost over Alaska. The two congressmen, the pilot, and the aircraft were never found, and they are presumed to be dead.

[Nilsen]

theyre stealthy, not cloaked

afaik modern A2A radars can see and track raptors ok, just not accurately or consistently enough to get a missile lock while they are maneuvering. I assume the raptors radar is at least capable of seeing another raptor within a few miles?

Radarski in glourious nation of kazakhstan can track the capitalist F22 from over 500 miles away!. 

[Golfer]

The aircraft that went down was using the radio ID of Rocky Three which would infer there was a flight of four. I'm told by some fighter guys that the wingman flew around, bingoed, hit a tanker and returned to the area to continue searching.

[skribetm]

A helicopter spotted the wreckage at 10:15 a.m. but did not immediately land because of the threat of hazardous materials.

"It was being considered a haz-mat scene," Hayes said. "They had to get the right gear flown out there to the location so that the pararescuemen and the crash site recovery folks could safely get down there and do a search."

If the pilot ejected, he would be prepared for subzero weather, McMullen said.

"They have survival gear," McMullen said. "He's Arctic trained to survive in that environment. He's got the gear on. He's got stuff in his survival kit, so that he could hunker himself down and fight the extreme cold."

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[JOACH1M]

All this money goes into these planes, modern radar, and anything else they shove into these planes, HOW CAN'T  THEY FIND IT! hope they do before it's to late

[beau32]

It was a flight of two with the call signs of Rocky I and Rocky III. They were practicing ACM's about 100 miles north of base, which after they were to return with a two mile seperation so ATC could handle them as one call sign instead of two. Thats when radar contact was lost. The wingman lost communications with the plane. After searching, he refueled from a tanker and continued the search but to no avail. Plane wreckage was discovered, but not the pilot. 

[eagl]

Missing pilot identified as Capt Jeffrey Haney

http://us.cnn.com/2010/US/11/19/alaska.plane.crash/index.html?hpt=T2

[Reschke]

WOW still no sign of the pilot. That is kinda weird but not having seen photos of the wreckage you have no idea of the possibility of the state of remains if there are any. Back when I was a freshman in college I witnessed an F4 Phantom pancake into a hill side after shearing off the wing tips. Pieces and parts of the pilot and back seater were located within hours of the crash. There were more than a few aircraft crashes in and around my parents house over the years with planes coming up out of Columbus AFB and Pensacola NAS since they would come play in the air over that region.

[greens]

When Mcgrath was a airforce base years ago, id watch all kinds of aircraft fly over my village. got to see F4 phantoms, F15s, F16s, A10 warthogs, refueling planes, even a P-38 <2 of them> they danced above our vilage n showed of what they can do, look like the planes were dogfiting each other. and the best of all last yr i got to see 2 F22s going faster than any jet i ever seen ever. condolences to the family of missing pilot.

[greens]

sad ending, condolences to the family n friends who lost a great pilot. <S> ELMENDORF AFB n family

[EskimoJoe]

 

"The Air Force says the state Department of Transportation cleared nearly 75 miles of roadway along the Denali Highway for Army convoys to get through."

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"Col. Jack McMullen, commander of Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson’s 3rd Wing, says finding part of the ejection seat at the crash site shows that Haney didn’t eject from the aircraft before crashing, leading officials to believe he did not survive.

The Air Force was joined by the Alaska National Guard and the Army in the search, but McMullen says it’s now a recovery operation."

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"McMullen says there’s a safety team in place collecting and securing evidence of the crash, and there are about 130 people near the crash site.

“It’s in a valley, between a ridge and -- it’s basically a 18 to 20-foot round hole, and it’s got water freeze-over,” McMullen said. “There are some parts of the airplane outside that, but the majority of the airplane is going beneath the earth so it’s going to require some effort to get the airplane out.” "

http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-searchers-plan-to-reach-f22-si-111910,0,5408424.story

[MachFly]

So he did not eject and they can't find the pilot? How do they know if he did not survive without finding the body?

[Nilsen]

Didnt they say that alot of the aircraft was still under ground Machfly? People and planeparts can still be under ground somewhere and if the ground has frozen it will take some time to recover everything.

[MachFly]

Didnt they say that alot of the aircraft was still under ground Machfly? People and planeparts can still be under ground somewhere and if the ground has frozen it will take some time to recover everything.

Yeah your probably right. I'd like the read the official air force report (when it comes out), wonder what caused it.