opinions on this aircraft.

[fullmetalbullet]

The Pe-8. i did use the search button and found 2 topics, and also did some reasearch on the aircraft. so besides filling a gap in russian planes. would it even be used in the MAs? heck even the better BUFFs get shot down way to easily. so would it even be used?

[Motherland]

so besides filling a gap in russian planes.

It wouldn't fill any gaps, it was largely worthless and rarely used. It didn't really fit into VVS doctrine.
The DB-3/Il-4, Pe-2, and Tu-2 were the workhorses of the VVS.

[fullmetalbullet]

how would it not fill any gaps? we need more russian aircraft.

[BrownBaron]

how would it not fill any gaps? we need more russian aircraft.

It wasn't a Russian workhorse like the above aircraft were.

Pe-2

8 is bigger than 2, so they must have used to way moar!

[Motherland]

how would it not fill any gaps? we need more russian aircraft.

Because the Soviets barely ever used it. Only 90 some were built. The only raids it was used on were morale raids where it rarely met enemy fighters. On the occasions it did it was massacred. You can't really build any scenarios around it, it wasn't used in any battles like the other bombers I listed were.
If we get Soviet aircraft, we should get the ones that were used. Not the ones that weren't.

[Karnak]

I am hoping that the fact the Tu-2 was not on the poll is because it is already in the production queue.

[fullmetalbullet]

im not saying add the Pe-8 into the game i was trying to get opinions on weather it would be used if they did add it?

[Motherland]

im not saying add the Pe-8 into the game i was trying to get opinions on weather it would be used if they did add it?

It wouldn't have a use in FSO's and I have to doubt it would be extremely popular in the MA's.

I am hoping that the fact the Tu-2 was not on the poll is because it is already in the production queue.

Hadn't thought of that...

[fullmetalbullet]

tbh if i had a wish that would be to make the US buffs more like the real ones used in WW2. very very hard to bring down. i have seen photos of B-17s landing with half a rudder a few feet of wing gone. they could take huge amounts of punishment and still bring its crew back home.

and i see the Pe-8 wouldnt be popular huh? nah the TU-2 i wouldnt fly at all.

[Karnak]

tbh if i had a wish that would be to make the US buffs more like the real ones used in WW2. very very hard to bring down. i have seen photos of B-17s landing with half a rudder a few feet of wing gone. they could take huge amounts of punishment and still bring its crew back home.

and i see the Pe-8 wouldnt be popular huh? nah the TU-2 i wouldnt fly at all.

1) The US bombers are already very tough.  The Lancaster, also a tough bomber, takes 13 Hispano direct hits to the tail to remove the tail.  The B-17 took, as I recall, 18 hits.  Don't be to reliant on the photos of the beat up aircraft that made it home.  There are no photos of the aircraft that didn't make it and quite often the damage that was fatal did not look nearly as impressive as the photos you are referring to.  Also, remember that a lot of times those photos were taken because they did stand out and were unusual.

2) The Tu-2 would be a pretty useful bomber in AH.  It is fast, carries a heavy load and has not entirely useless defensive guns.

[Void]

Pe-2 and Tu-2 are my dream birds..

[Scotty55OEFVet]

I am hoping that the fact the Tu-2 was not on the poll is because it is already in the production queue.

Heard that Panther WAS actually going to added but gonna be a while...any truth to that?

[Karnak]

Heard that Panther WAS actually going to added but gonna be a while...any truth to that?

Somebody who was at the Con would be a better source on that.

[MiloMorai]

tbh if i had a wish that would be to make the US buffs more like the real ones used in WW2. very very hard to bring down. i have seen photos of B-17s landing with half a rudder a few feet of wing gone. they could take huge amounts of punishment and still bring its crew back home.

Number of bombers lost by each heavy bomber group in the 8th Air Force during World War II

http://www.taphilo.com/history/8thaf/8aflosses.shtml

[Grendel]

how would it not fill any gaps? we need more russian aircraft.

There are many Russian aircraft, that were built in larger numbers and used actively, unlike the rare bird like Pe-8.

93 planes built, primarily used as night bomber and flown in tactical missions, later in strategic night bombing missions by ADD.

But for example Pe-2, Tu-2 or Il-4 would be much more typical example of Soviet bombers, that were used in the frontlines actively.