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Offline INSANO2

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2010, 02:31:51 PM »
Love the M if I'm going out to pick some unsuspecting fools but nothing beats an N as a JABO!!

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2010, 05:45:52 AM »
All very good feedback. Thanks for all the posts thus far.   :salute

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2010, 10:01:56 AM »
P47D11 ftw :rock
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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2010, 10:13:59 AM »

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2010, 10:17:01 AM »
I'm with bar on this one!

But between the M and N it just depends if I'm in a PTO mood or an ETO mood.  :D Jugs have always been my favorite fighter.

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2010, 11:23:51 AM »
if I want to bomb something, I fly the "N"
if not      "M"!
It is really pretty simple!

+1.  The vast majority of the time I'm picking the latter. 

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2010, 11:25:54 AM »
Bring on the D-23!
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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2010, 11:35:35 AM »
+1 razer back 25 yaaaaaa

Fyi JOACH1M the D-23 was the last Razorback production block :salute

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2010, 12:03:13 PM »
I dont know why but the P47D11 just feels like an armored flying tank with guns. i feel safe in it until i get tatered...
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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2010, 01:06:39 PM »
I dont know why but the P47D11 just feels like an armored flying tank with guns. i feel safe in it until i get tatered...

That's because they were incredibly safe, and completely under modeled in the game for the weight penalty of their rugged construction and armor.

From the USAF museum fact sheet

"Of the grand total of 15,683 P-47s built, approximately two-thirds reached operational commands overseas and 5,222 were lost in action, including 1,722 non-combat losses. In 1.35 million combat hours flown, the combat loss was less than 0.7 percent, an exceptionally low figure attesting to the strength of the aircraft."
 
There is a very good reason why it produced the top ETO aces.

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2010, 06:32:28 PM »
They also went in when no other planes were ready. They alone took the fight to the enemy, and with sheer numbers were getting most of the kills.

Don't over-glorify it. It's strong all right, but it also takes a solid beating in Aces High. It's one of the easiest planes to lose half a wing with and still survive, land safely, and get a new plane.

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2010, 06:45:56 PM »
Your link shows the M has slightly better fuel economy. Comparing 305 gallons internal fuel in the M to 550 gallons in the N makes it clear which has the greater range.

It's the exact same engine. The EXACT same specs. That's why it was easy for HTC to build the -M, because they already did the engine on the -N.

You look up the specs on www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o rg and it tells you the exact same duration cruising with 205 gallons fuel for both the M and N-5 models: 1.48 hours.

Exactly the same. The only reason the M is 7-9mph faster is because it doesn't have nearly as much weight. More weight means slightly higher angle of attack, which means slightly more drag.

You fly the 47N "lean" and it will perform very much like an M.


Now I just wish the historically incorrect overload ammo was removed from both!

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2010, 08:49:01 PM »
Krusty I'm not as certain as you seem to be that all of the drag difference is based on weight.

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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2010, 10:39:29 PM »
 :aok

if I want to bomb something, I fly the "N"
if not      "M"!
It is really pretty simple!
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Re: P47m vs. P-47n: Round II
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2010, 10:54:44 PM »
They also went in when no other planes were ready. They alone took the fight to the enemy, and with sheer numbers were getting most of the kills.

It's one of the easiest planes to lose half a wing with and still survive, land safely, and get a new plane.

True true