The Know-Nothing Generation

[Penguin]

Well, SAT's are a test of what you've learned through school, so logically...

True, perhaps I responded incorrectly.

-Penguin

[Tupac]

I want to be a pilot, but for some reason I still need to be able to identify flagellates and ciliophora.

Pffffffffffffffft

[Motherland]

I'm a firm believer that you should have a firm, basic understanding of the world around you.

[Jayhawk]

You are 32 years old according to U.S. averages of intelligence?  That doesn't make sense.

If you said you were 32 years old according to the average educated 32 year old U.S. citizen, that might make a little bit more sense, but still doesn't mean anything, since the average person is not very bright.

The human population will continue to get dumber and dumber since less educated, less intelligent, and less responsible humans will reproduce more often than intelligent, responsible humans.  There is no darwinism anymore to weed out the bad genes.  There are still many young intelligent people that become more valuable in each generation.

He misspoke, they told him his intelligence was 32 and he didn't realize they were talking IQ.


 

[Fulmar]

BRAWNDO... It's got electrolytes!

(Image removed from quote.)
(Image removed from quote.)

Bad movie, excellent concept.

[Guppy35]

All I keep hearing in my head as I read this thread is  "back in my day!"

Now where's the 20 foot snow drift for me to walk through, barefoot, uphill for miles...and like it!

Kids depend on their parents and the adults to teach em.  If the kids are failing it's on the grown ups.  I don't for a second believe the kids are failing however.  Pretty darn proud of mine actually.

[uptown]

I caught my 11 yr old the other night cussing while playing on XBox live. I made my other kid clean the toilet for the same thing so how it was his turn. Of coarse he puffed up and whined about it the whole time.
After he was finished I made him sit down on the couch for awhile and he preceded to tell me that he is 11 years old and should be able to cuss if he wants to. 

I promptly lifted my arm up showing him my arm pit. I said, "you see that? When your arm pit looks hairy like that and I'm not paying your internet bill you can do and say want you want." We understand each other a bit better now I think. 

[FiLtH]

  Its scary, but our folks thought the same of us. And look how we %$#@ed it up!

[oakranger]

I caught my 11 yr old the other night cussing while playing on XBox live. I made my other kid clean the toilet for the same thing so how it was his turn. Of coarse he puffed up and whined about it the whole time.
After he was finished I made him sit down on the couch for awhile and he preceded to tell me that he is 11 years old and should be able to cuss if he wants to. 

I promptly lifted my arm up showing him my arm pit. I said, "you see that? When your arm pit looks hairy like that and I'm not paying your internet bill you can do and say want you want." We understand each other a bit better now I think. 

    

[Stalwart]

I thought I knew something, maybe a few things.
My teenager corrected me.

[FYB]

I caught my 11 yr old the other night cussing while playing on XBox live. I made my other kid clean the toilet for the same thing so how it was his turn. Of coarse he puffed up and whined about it the whole time.
After he was finished I made him sit down on the couch for awhile and he preceded to tell me that he is 11 years old and should be able to cuss if he wants to. 

I promptly lifted my arm up showing him my arm pit. I said, "you see that? When your arm pit looks hairy like that and I'm not paying your internet bill you can do and say want you want." We understand each other a bit better now I think. 

The reason you should take away his Xbox360 and Xboxlive, is so XboxLive won't be so full of cussing 11 year olds. And well handled. 

[kilo2]

Get off my damn lawn 

Damn kids and there flin flang xbox360, cussing like sailors downfall of the damn united states I tell you what.

[Plazus]

I had a great talk with my brother-in-law today about the new generation of kids. We both agreed that after each generation, we get more "stupid" or "worse" than the previous one. However, our agreement on this hypothesis is due to our understanding of science, the Bible, and adaptation/evolution. I would love to discuss more of my thoughts about this, but I do not want to get PNGed. This discussion would be for another thread in another forum.

[Vudak]

Well, SAT's are a test of what you've learned through school, so logically...

They really aren't though.  SAT's are a measure of how well you can study for a test (even if that test is on things you were supposed to learn in school).  I guess that's worth something too (can you do something that you don't want to do?) but if you're looking for a way to judge legitimate knowledge, you'd better look for something else.

For about $3,000 and 6-8 hours a week for a month, I could bump your kids' score on a few tests up roughly 100-200 points, depending on how low they started and how much they wanted it.  For about $300 and 3 hours or so every day, your kid could do the same him/herself.  It's easier if you're rich, but not impossible if you're poor.

I think a problem we have is we make school more about chasing a grade or percentage or score more than we make it about getting an education.  If your kid is bright enough and determined enough, and has an idea of what is going to be on the final, he can skip the entire semester and walk in and ace the final.  He's also going to miss out on a lot by doing it.

Just think back to your own college.  Did you learn more by studying for a test, or researching and writing a paper, or preparing a debate?

[grizz441]

They really aren't though.  SAT's are a measure of how well you can study for a test (even if that test is on things you were supposed to learn in school).  I guess that's worth something too (can you do something that you don't want to do?) but if you're looking for a way to judge legitimate knowledge, you'd better look for something else.

For about $3,000 and 6-8 hours a week for a month, I could bump your kids' score on a few tests up roughly 100-200 points, depending on how low they started and how much they wanted it.  For about $300 and 3 hours or so every day, your kid could do the same him/herself.  It's easier if you're rich, but not impossible if you're poor.

I think a problem we have is we make school more about chasing a grade or percentage or score more than we make it about getting an education.  If your kid is bright enough and determined enough, and has an idea of what is going to be on the final, he can skip the entire semester and walk in and ace the final.  He's also going to miss out on a lot by doing it.

Just think back to your own college.  Did you learn more by studying for a test, or researching and writing a paper, or preparing a debate?

There is definitely an effort factor in the SAT and I don't see anything wrong with that.  If a student is committed enough to prepare hard for a standardized test and does well on it, his score not only reflects his intelligence, but it also reflects his work ethic and committment to going to a good university.  Universities want to see that.