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Offline Tyrannis

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p51 crazy tactic
« on: December 12, 2010, 08:43:36 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmOuljdWyWI


@0.47 can any1 tell me what the manuever that pony pulls is called? or wether it an actuall "official" combat manuever or just something the pilot pulled at the last minute.


and also, is it possable to pull it off in AH?... :pray
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 08:49:23 AM »
Quote from: Tyrannis on December 12, 2010, 08:43:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmOuljdWyWI


@0.47 can any1 tell me what the manuever that pony pulls is called? or wether it an actuall "official" combat manuever or just something the pilot pulled at the last minute.


and also, is it possable to pull it off in AH?... :pray
Almost every move is possible in AH, u just gotta findem. Throttle helps to
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 08:50:04 AM »
i would have to say that no, you cannot do that. He turns on a dime almost.
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 08:57:46 AM »
Here is your answer. Its called a Lomcevak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SrF5On5xIk

I have tried this manuever in the MA with no results until the RV-8 was enabled. I did it then.
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 09:09:17 AM »
think i could pull that off in a b17?  :noid


would deff leave the spitdweebs thinking:  :huh  :confused:  :joystick:  :headscratch:  :furious
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 09:09:39 AM »
That maneuver does not have a name, but what you saw was a re-enactment of a dogfight between Richard Candelaria and a German Ace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdCm5z2RpI8

This has been discussed before and I forgot who, but there was (or is) a guy in the Bronco Mustangs that could pull something very similar to that move.

Edit ... I guess the maneuver is close to a Lomcevak .... Here is the post from dtango and how he pulls this move.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,267130.msg3336378.html#msg3336378
« Last Edit: December 12, 2010, 09:15:54 AM by SlapShot »
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 09:13:02 AM »
Quote from: akbmzawy on December 12, 2010, 08:57:46 AM
Here is your answer. Its called a Lomcevak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SrF5On5xIk

I have tried this manuever in the MA with no results until the RV-8 was enabled. I did it then.

Read above.
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2010, 09:37:18 AM »
Quote from: BowHTR on December 12, 2010, 08:50:04 AM
i would have to say that no, you cannot do that. He turns on a dime almost.

I seem to remember that it IS doable in AH, just very very hard and requires either a lot of patience to get it right (I.e 7 years worth) or a lot of luck. Searching for the threads on it now.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,267130.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,222522.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,274763.0.html

EDIT: HT has himself said it is NOT Possible.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,274763.105.html

Apologies
« Last Edit: December 12, 2010, 09:39:20 AM by macleod01 »
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 10:27:49 AM »
candelaria's P51-D was waaaaaaaaay overmodeled.
it was built out of spec by NA.
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 12:21:28 PM »
Yeah it can be done. Do a search for "flat plate". There's been several threads on it in the past. :salute

 

It's really not worth the time and trouble to learn IMO. If and that's a BIG if, you can pull it off you still have to time it so you can shoot the guy as he flys by. There's a million other and easier ways to create an overshoot.


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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2010, 12:53:56 PM »
Quote from: uptown on December 12, 2010, 12:21:28 PM
Yeah it can be done. Do a search for "flat plate". There's been several threads on it in the past. :salute

 

It's really not worth the time and trouble to learn IMO. If and that's a BIG if, you can pull it off you still have to time it so you can shoot the guy as he flys by. There's a million other and easier ways to create an overshoot.


Believe nothing you see on the History Channel and only half of what ya hear.  :salute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jy0YmvGc6o
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2010, 12:56:15 PM »
Anyone nootice that the 262 puts a few 30mm into the 51s wing, nothing!

fix the taters!!!  :noid
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2010, 12:57:50 PM »
Umm Pervert, that dogfight episode orginated on the History Channel not YouTube.  But I fixed it for ya .  :D
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2010, 12:58:14 PM »
Quote from: uptown on December 12, 2010, 12:21:28 PM
Yeah it can be done. Do a search for "flat plate". There's been several threads on it in the past. :salute

 

It's really not worth the time and trouble to learn IMO. If and that's a BIG if, you can pull it off you still have to time it so you can shoot the guy as he flys by. There's a million other and easier ways to create an overshoot.


Believe nothing you see on the History Channel and only half of what ya hear.  :salute

Uptown, a Flat plate is similar and is about the closest that we can replicate. However HT has himself said that the exact move shown in the Dogfights Episode is impossible to recreate ingame. Have a look at my last link in the edit, Page 3 I think about half way down.

A flat plate does look very similar, but it is not the exact move shown
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2010, 01:00:44 PM »
Blaaaa, HiTech's a noob!  :bolt:

Other then that I agree with your statement.  :devil
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