Metrodome Roof Collapses?

[Tupac]

You reffering to the same Gerhardt Karmmer at Langdon Willson here in LA?

I'm not sure

[Babalonian]

Bingo, i design homes and some commercial buildings at times , the plans will not be passed without certified engineered spec's that must meet or exceed  ALL  State, County, and City structural codes, once passed it's Safe for the Public to occupy, and with that Roof System i'm sure they kept a good eye on it's construction, now you get into the did all the materials used in construction meets the Spec's ? , they must have or they never would of passed all the inspections during its construction OR did something happen with the climate control system that prevented it from supplying enough warmth into the Roof to keep the snow from accumulating on the Roof, there's going to be alot of finger pointing until this is all said and done

Agreed, I feel sorry for most the parties involved as they won't be at fault but will be a long and ugly ride during the investigation/liability-insurance/civil-attorney hash-n-$.  It won't bode well for their reputations either, regardless of whatever is eventualy concluded.

Hah, well thx, I have an engineering position at a consulting office too, I'm not just going to school.

Thx for the tip on tensile strength, I'll look that one up, never heard of it before.  Hopefully I can also learn how to draw a shear and moment diagram while I'm at it.  

Good luck, a solid engineering firm (either as an employee or owner of the company) is worth its weight in gold to you, so I hope it works out well for ya.  You're being sarcastic about tensile strength I hope    lol (Laymans term for tensile strength is how much something will bend/give before utterly failing/breaking/ripping).

I love it when CADD monkeys try to talk engineering. It's cute.

SunBat, P.E.

I love when engineers/architects undervalue those that carry them in the workplace.  [Fresh 4year+ graduate] < [2year-min-expereince 2year-orless CADD certified/degreed 'monkey'].  

I'm not sure

I believe he's one of the principles at a huge firm here in LA, one of our good clients... when paying our invoices up to current... but anywho.  My father and him have been friends in the buisness for many many years.

[grizz441]

Good luck, a solid engineering firm (either as an employee or owner of the company) is worth its weight in gold to you, so I hope it works out well for ya.  You're being sarcastic about tensile strength I hope    lol (Laymans term for tensile strength is how much something will bend/give before utterly failing/breaking/ripping).

 
Of course I was being sarcastic.  I have a bachelors in civil engineering, have taken and passed the fundamentals of engineering exam, am currently in grad school getting my master's in structural engineering, and also work at a consulting office.  I think I know what "tensile capacity" is.   

Oh, and your definition is incorrect.  Carry on though cad monkey. 

[DREDIOCK]

Obvious answer seems to me to be to just tear the damn thing off.
When they build a new stadium. If they still insist on having a roof on it. then follow some sort of Norse design. Unlke todays nimrods that call themselves architects/engineers. The norsemen knew how to build structures that made sense for the environment they were in. (read, they knew how to build buildings that shed the snow)
Im talking design. not necessarily the same materials used.
Although in some of these cases. the materials used are probably more structurally superior that that bit of fabric covering the dome

Norse mill


Building n a reconstructed Viking foortress



Viking Storage house






Now. I ask you. Look at those photos above. And look at the Metrodome below.
Which would you trust more in a heavy snowstorm?



They didnt build em to look like this for a reason

[SunBat]

I used to think the PE registration process was absurd until I read this thread. Thank you for making my PE registration mean something Dred, et al.  I was afraid I went to school, practiced engineering for all those years, and passed that impossible test for nothing. Please keep drafting for dollars and imagining that u know what ur talking about while the real engineers make sure the public is safe.  Please.

[grizz441]

Obvious answer seems to me to be to just tear the damn thing off.
When they build a new stadium. If they still insist on having a roof on it. then follow some sort of Norse design. Unlke todays nimrods that call themselves architects/engineers. The norsemen knew how to build structures that made sense for the environment they were in. (read, they knew how to build buildings that shed the snow)
Im talking design. not necessarily the same materials used.
Although in some of these cases. the materials used are probably more structurally superior that that bit of fabric covering the dome

Norse mill
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Building n a reconstructed Viking foortress

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Viking Storage house

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Now. I ask you. Look at those photos above. And look at the Metrodome below.
Which would you trust more in a heavy snowstorm?

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They didnt build em to look like this for a reason

It doesn't sound like you have a very good understanding on how the engineering world works.  Just sayin.

[Shuffler]

My Daughter was taking meteorology. The engineering students in her calc class were shocked to hear that she had to take much math than engineering required.

I would have never thought that before.

[grizz441]

My Daughter was taking meteorology. The engineering students in her calc class were shocked to hear that she had to take much math than engineering required.

I would have never thought that before.

Meteorology requires more math than engineering?

[Tordon22]

Doubtful.

[Tupac]

The Gerhardt I'm talking about has a young kid, he went to a school that my mom taught at.

He also has a very thick German accent

[Tordon22]

I looked it up, more than I thought but still much less than engineering at my university. I didn't compare to that schools engineering program though.

[Shuffler]

Meteorology requires more math than engineering?

Much more.

She goes to Texas A&M. A school known for it's engineering. It is also one of the top 3 in the nation for Meteorology.

[Masherbrum]

In all honesty, ice and snow brought the roof down.  Noone was injured, killedn etc.

But this thread has long passed reached the "Lasersailor Level" on the meter.

[Masherbrum]

Grats Shuff!

[SunBat]

In all honesty, ice and snow brought the roof down. 

It's the engineer's job to make sure that doesn't happen.