DA / State of affairs?

[Simon]

As a Fighter Ace migrant, one of the things I struggled with in Aces High was the lack of instant action.

I gravitated towards the DA for most of my flying hours since it seemed I could always find a fight within the first 5 minutes of upping. Being able to fly perk planes, having radar active all the time and not having to worry about tanks/flakkers/AA/ships also helped me start to learn without being instantly killed by something/someone I never even saw. I also saw many other ex-FA'ers had landed in the DA which meant I might have a chance to land a kill or two.

Now that I've got about 6 months under my belt I've come to notice that the DA is chock-full of pickers, vulchers, HO'ers, runners, stat queens, whiners, base-huggers, chest-thumpers, stick-stirrers and rammers... Just like Fighter Ace! Just like the MA too, come to think of it.

Some nights are worse than others. As Lawman said, last night was 75% Temps and Spits and it was downright ugly. On the other hand, like NRSHIDA says, the weekend mornings with <10 people in there is a furballer's bliss... until that first Tempy rolls out of the hangar and everyone else suddenly needs one to keep up.

It’s just human nature. People don’t like to lose, and if their best chance of getting a kill (and not being killed) is to boom and zoom, then that’s what they’ll do. Many play to survive. Some play to win and then there's the rare breed that play just for the thrill of the fight. Unfortunately the latter doesn't mix well with the former.


Simon

[CAP1]

the shame of it is that da used to be fun. back when i was in the hired guns, some of us would go in there to play, and had some good fights. as recently as last year(i think) there was that 109 vs p-38 challeng that we had in there.....and that was massive fun.

[B4Buster]

I don't fly in the DA much, but it can be very frustrating. You just need to tell yourself that it's just going to be like that  in there. It's next to impossible to get a 1v1 duel in the pond, but it's a great place to practice getting ganged 4, 5, and 6 on one, so when you hit the MA - you'll be a pro at fighting the hordes.

[FiLtH]

 We who use the DA regularly have a great time in there. Sometimes you are out numbered,sometimes they are, but an effort is made to try to keep it even. At prime time US it tends to get a little too crowded for my taste, but its still fun. You have to have the mind set that you will likely die but kill a bunch in the process. You cant let it bother you. Yes, a few take temps, although some dogfight in them, not run all day.

  Its a great SA challenge. Heads on a swivel. Ive met some good folks in there,fun to fly with. The transit to the fight is shorter than the MA, and there isnt a hord(normally) all the time. You get to the all the planes for free.

  Pretty much, ya have to take what comes, learn to fight it, and enjoy yourself.

The DA isnt so much about altitude, as it is attitude.

[Vudak]

 limited plane set, and no icons, but if you take the time to get used to the lack of icons, you'll do more learning there, than anywhere else, except the ta.

That's been claimed for as long as I've been here, but if it's suddenly true, that place must have changed a TON.

[dedalos]

AvA for what it's worth.

 limited plane set, and no icons, but if you take the time to get used to the lack of icons, you'll do more learning there, than anywhere else, except the ta.

 

[warhed]

That's been claimed for as long as I've been here, but if it's suddenly true, that place must have changed a TON.

Last time I popped in a few weeks ago, I saw a 262 vulching, and I chased a Pony for a sector until he had help show up.  I'll try again next year

[CAP1]

That's been claimed for as long as I've been here, but if it's suddenly true, that place must have changed a TON.

i think it has. jaeger, oldman, fork, usranger, and others are working their tulips off. excellent maps from ranger, including one called twin rivers. it's got destroyable bridges.
 the maps and plane sets change weekly. there is often weather in there, including wind, wind gusts, and limited/low visibility conditions. the plane sets are generally fairly evenly matched.

 look down in my sig line, there's a link to the ava's website too. check it out.

 till tomorrow night, it's jet week.....only aircraft are the me262, ar234, and the rv8(as a FAC type of role). the fights have ranged from 10k down to the deck, and they're almost all knife fights.....although i did kinda sneak up on malap a couple of times.  

 sometimes there's a couple of mouthy people in there, but they're pretty harmless, and easy to ignore. also, JG3 runs a squad op on wed. nights, and sometimes tends to fly a little high....but again.......always good fights.

 best times are around 8 or 9pm eastern till about 11pm eastern.  

[CAP1]

Last time I popped in a few weeks ago, I saw a 262 vulching, and I chased a Pony for a sector until he had help show up.  I'll try again next year

when was this? as the 262 was available 2 weeks ago, and not again till this week. i thnik the ponyb was also available that same time period.

[cohofly]

I make my way into the DA when Im having FR issues in the MA. It is what it is, I do recall that on TT's a year or so back, someone orginized the fight to the canyons, with the canyon rim as the ceiling. You would still see a few XVI's and even a Tempy or two, but it was fun. If you are looking for a quieter fight at furball lake then do what Nrshida does and fly inland toward an enemy base. For some reason it draws usually only one or two enemy planes.
Oh and Cap1 was that a promo fro the AvA??
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Carver

[Melvin]

Pretty awesome hijack fellas.

As for finding a fight in the DA, my method is to fly around the edge of the lake as opposed to heading for the big red blob. Eventually (usually not long) 1 or 2 guys will come over to mix it up.

Of course you better make it a quick fight, because once the rest of the DA score potatoes see a lone con in a relatively fair fight, they all migrate over for the easy pickins.  

I never really understood that kind of attitude though as there is NO score in the DA! Must just be the "name in lights" thing. Guess Mommy didn't give out enough hugs and smooches.

<S> Melvin

[dedalos]

when was this? as the 262 was available 2 weeks ago, and not again till this week. i thnik the ponyb was also available that same time period.

Lets see, I logged in a couple of weeks ago and it was a bunch off 262s HOing as soon as you took off.  In the middle of avoiding the HOs, I get picked by an invisible 109 driven a preacher of good fights.  I learned a lot that day.  Yeah, next year sounds good lol.

But feel free to turn every thread to an AvA is so great thread.  At list you guys post the truth about what is happening in there.  There is a reason it is empty.

[CAP1]

I make my way into the DA when Im having FR issues in the MA. It is what it is, I do recall that on TT's a year or so back, someone orginized the fight to the canyons, with the canyon rim as the ceiling. You would still see a few XVI's and even a Tempy or two, but it was fun. If you are looking for a quieter fight at furball lake then do what Nrshida does and fly inland toward an enemy base. For some reason it draws usually only one or two enemy planes.
Oh and Cap1 was that a promo fro the AvA??
<S>
Carver

yea. i'm a shameless bastage, ain't i? 

[CAP1]

Lets see, I logged in a couple of weeks ago and it was a bunch off 262s HOing as soon as you took off.  In the middle of avoiding the HOs, I get picked by an invisible 109 driven a preacher of good fights.  I learned a lot that day.  Yeah, next year sounds good lol.

But feel free to turn every thread to an AvA is so great thread.  At list you guys post the truth about what is happening in there.  There is a reason it is empty.

there was only 2 or 3 guys flyin the 262;s that week. one of em all the time. he was picking. i kilt him.

 the 109 guys were actually fighting. at one point, shuffler, and corkyjr came in and flew 109's.

this was one of the picking 262's

a 109 fight...from the same week....


 also from another 109 fight. the 109 is in the lower left of the shot...barely visible. i lost that fight.....

[dedalos]

there was only 2 or 3 guys flyin the 262;s that week. one of em all the time. he was picking. i kilt him.

 the 109 guys were actually fighting. at one point, shuffler, and corkyjr came in and flew 109's.

this was one of the picking 262's
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a 109 fight...from the same week....
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 also from another 109 fight. the 109 is in the lower left of the shot...barely visible. i lost that fight.....
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I guess we have different definitions of fighting Cap.  Picking a P47 tangled up with several 262s is not fighting.  All he had to do was wait and he would have his fight.  But instead, took advantage of the no icons to get a kill.  I left and had a blast somewhere else.  The AvA though, was left with 3 262s and 1 109 on one side vs 2 P47s on the other.  Great fun for all and big lessons learned by all I am sure.

Posting about the AvA over and over will do nothing for it.  People log in, the see the BS, and they leave.