How F3 can improve shooting

[pervert]

I find this funny was flying from same hoarded base as offending il2 f3 shooter the other day. Hes flying a pos ride if your flying virtually any other ride you have a huge advantage over him not to mention usually numbers alt speed etc etc, but still the tears flowed. Forget f3 how much more of an advantage do some of you need to shoot down a crappy il2 in an uber ride? Lol 

[Melvin]

I find this funny was flying from same hoarded base as offending il2 f3 shooter the other day. Hes flying a pos ride if your flying virtually any other ride you have a huge advantage over him not to mention usually numbers alt speed etc etc, but still the tears flowed. Forget f3 how much more of an advantage do some of you need to shoot down a crappy il2 in an uber ride? Lol  

A perfectly valid argument.

I still feel that F3 should be limited if only for the reason that IL-2, A-20, etc. drivers could NOT see everything within the sphere of their aircraft. Not even with crewmen.

I would even go so far as to suggest that Lancasters should lose F3 due to the fact that they didn't have ball turret gunners. Surely there must have been a blind spot somewhere.  

Seriously, blind spot = NO F3

<S> Melvin

Edit: For those that are in favor of F3, the burden of proof is on your backs. You must prove that there would be 0 blind spots with regards to the flight crew. (As far as this argument goes anyway.)

[68ZooM]

maybe it's losing a 262 to the IL2 that spurred all this     ummm  i could be wrong

[Vinkman]

I find this funny was flying from same hoarded base as offending il2 f3 shooter the other day. Hes flying a pos ride if your flying virtually any other ride you have a huge advantage over him not to mention usually numbers alt speed etc etc, but still the tears flowed. Forget f3 how much more of an advantage do some of you need to shoot down a crappy il2 in an uber ride? Lol 

Misses the whole point

[BiPoLaR]

If you die to ghi's same neg G stick stir f3 shooting move more than once. You are a complete idiot.
who really cares about f3 mode? use it if you want to. that is what its there for. I use it in the A20 when bombing and the IL2 when popping turrets with the taters. Cant shoot worth a piss with it on. Not like i could shoot worth a damn anyways.

[JOACH1M]

maybe it's losing a 262 to the IL2 that spurred all this     ummm  i could be wrong

Twice this tour he killed me in my 262, 1 was my fault the other he snapshotted me from 800 out

[pervert]

Misses the whole point

You gonna guess my opinion of flying with f3? do I think it needs changed anywhere nope does it offer an advantage shooting not really. GHI's use of the IL2 is were this whole recent 'debate' started so my post is valid, it boils down to tears  .

[dedalos]

I defend bases in a P40 some times.  Really crappy ride.  Can I get F3 also?  Lets pretend its the tower telling me where the bad guys are 

[R 105]

Melvin gets it and I agree.

[JUGgler]

Just eliminate the cockpit obtructions for these particular aircraft and make them fly from the seat! It seems this would eliminate the unrealistic "out of plane" view of F3 and exchange it for a more realistic yet modified "inplane" view for the game!  

     I mean honestly, what would be wrong with this and how many peeps would have issues with it?  

 JUGgler

[TinmanX]

after 5 months of trying to get that shot

So it isn't instant gratification then.

[JOACH1M]

So it isn't instant gratification then.

No

[TinmanX]

Let the DAers have their F3. It's not like it's going to help them in the MA.
As for bombers - F3 provides the all around visibility that would otherwide have been provided by the gunners and flight crew alongside the pilot. We can't have +/- 9 guys sat with us on our bomber flights, scanning the skies in all direction. If the downside of that is a couple of nooblets scoring an undernose shot, I'll take it. The alternative would screw over bomber pilots royally.

[dedalos]

Let the DAers have their F3. It's not like it's going to help them in the MA.
As for bombers - F3 provides the all around visibility that would otherwide have been provided by the gunners and flight crew alongside the pilot. We can't have +/- 9 guys sat with us on our bomber flights, scanning the skies in all direction. If the downside of that is a couple of nooblets scoring an undernose shot, I'll take it. The alternative would screw over bomber pilots royally.

Nop, only thing you have to do is make some planes attack and not buffs.  No one is complaining about buffs.  And no F3 in the DA unless someone can come up with a good reason.

I think now that HT got his films maybe we should hear something about it?

[JOACH1M]

Let the DAers have their F3. It's not like it's going to help them in the MA.
As for bombers - F3 provides the all around visibility that would otherwide have been provided by the gunners and flight crew alongside the pilot. We can't have +/- 9 guys sat with us on our bomber flights, scanning the skies in all direction. If the downside of that is a couple of nooblets scoring an undernose shot, I'll take it. The alternative would screw over bomber pilots royally.

no, becuase when a dual someone it gives them an advantage