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Offline bj229r

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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2010, 07:09:10 PM »
In a decade or 3, we wont be burning fossil fuels anymore, and the MMGW nazi's can try to search for some other malady of which Man is the cause
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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #91 on: December 31, 2010, 07:26:19 PM »
Where do yo want to live?
Low carbon heaven or Carbon rich hell?

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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #92 on: December 31, 2010, 08:18:25 PM »
How old is this Planet?  What does your 75 years matter? The Hockey Puck graph was discredited by the Author. Emails discredited the IPCC. Wikileaks discredited the US in it efforts to influence other nations to go along with our bad science. It's a money grab eveyone, the UN wants to collect money from everyone and redistribute the wealth after taking 75% for themselves and our leaders are good with that.

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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #93 on: December 31, 2010, 08:24:01 PM »
Yes, but the way I have it figured, we should more be concerned about finding another source of energy based on the fact we don't have enough to finish off this century without starting WWIII rather than about warming/cooling this planet's atmosphere. I still think its a good thing the technology is evolving in the way it is now, but just not for the right reasons (at least in the head of the common people). Can say just the same about water/food supplies but that's another topic.

while i believe that oil is in fact a renewable resource(google it), i do agree that we should be looking for alternatives too.

 one that i think was a decent idea was an experiment being done in norway. i think it was called the hydrogen highway. they had electrolysis machines placed along this highway, that used energy from the sun to extract hydrogen from the water. this was then used to run hydrogen powered cars. the only emission from these cars was......water.
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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #94 on: December 31, 2010, 08:55:55 PM »
WTG Cap1,

I build parts for Hydrogen generators, Ford is going to introduce the Hydrogen engine in 2012, I hope it works.

I still want everyone take care of themselves, don't rely on the Government to bail you out. Less Government and more self responsibility is the answer.

This is my last post, I'm moving on. (please let our people keep their money through their lives)

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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #95 on: December 31, 2010, 09:00:10 PM »
There already are alternative sources of energy, but none of those are as cost efficient as natural oil. We need to find an alternative source of energy that's nearly as cheap. Right now we're looking at the steep prices of alternative energy. (even with fusion energy we would still need oil in a way or another)

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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #96 on: December 31, 2010, 09:32:02 PM »
WTG Cap1,

I build parts for Hydrogen generators, Ford is going to introduce the Hydrogen engine in 2012, I hope it works.

I still want everyone take care of themselves, don't rely on the Government to bail you out. Less Government and more self responsibility is the answer.

This is my last post, I'm moving on. (please let our people keep their money through their lives)

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all i can say to that...is leave it to ford to lead the way........again.  :aok
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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #97 on: December 31, 2010, 10:22:06 PM »
There already are alternative sources of energy, but none of those are as cost efficient as natural oil. We need to find an alternative source of energy that's nearly as cheap. Right now we're looking at the steep prices of alternative energy. (even with fusion energy we would still need oil in a way or another)

Why?

Why do we need to find "Alternative" energy?

We have tons of oil we can drill. We should drill for it.

Let the market place sort this out.

Man caused AGW is a crock of crap cooked up by people who love to control other people. Anyone who believes that junk ignores that the data is cooked, manipulated and scripted to reinforce a preconceived notion.

Oil and Gas are great fuels and DO NOT NEED an alternative. If you want to build more nuke plants I am all for that too. If you want to damn some more rivers I am all for that too. Harness the tides as well.

The alternative energy talking heads need an alternative message.

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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #98 on: December 31, 2010, 10:24:04 PM »
Why?

Why do we need to find "Alternative" energy?

We have tons of oil we can drill. We should drill for it.

Let the market place sort this out.

Man caused AGW is a crock of crap cooked up by people who love to control other people. Anyone who believes that junk ignores that the data is cooked, manipulated and scripted to reinforce a preconceived notion.

Oil and Gas are great fuels and DO NOT NEED an alternative. If you want to build more nuke plants I am all for that too. If you want to damn some more rivers I am all for that too. Harness the tides as well.

The alternative energy talking heads need an alternative message.

Oneway

on the nuke plants........i know a guy that has worked on building a couple. according to him........no risk of anything bad happening like did in chernobyl
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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #99 on: December 31, 2010, 10:24:22 PM »
How old is this Planet?  What does your 75 years matter? The Hockey Puck graph was discredited by the Author. Emails discredited the IPCC. Wikileaks discredited the US in it efforts to influence other nations to go along with our bad science. It's a money grab eveyone, the UN wants to collect money from everyone and redistribute the wealth after taking 75% for themselves and our leaders are good with that.

Think everyone.

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You hit that out of the ball park.

Anyone who has followed this with an 'objective' critical mind knows the science is junk science, and its nothing but a power and money grab.

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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #100 on: December 31, 2010, 10:26:12 PM »
on the nuke plants........i know a guy that has worked on building a couple. according to him........no risk of anything bad happening like did in chernobyl

Nuke plants are a great idea. Tons of electricity so the tree huggers so they can drive their Chevy volts...all for it.

In the meantime, our diesel and gasoline engines need fuel.

Drill baby Drill...

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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #101 on: December 31, 2010, 10:28:09 PM »
Nuke plants are a great idea. Tons of electricity so the tree huggers so they can drive their Chevy volts...all for it.

In the meantime, our diesel and gasoline engines need fuel.

Drill baby Drill...

funny thing about tree huggers....ask em to give up anythig they have that may have harmed their environemt......they won't.....
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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #102 on: December 31, 2010, 11:15:15 PM »
Cut a tree down and plant two in it's place. Wow! I'm a genius, We can call it a renewable resource. Green building materials, give me $40.00 per tree and I will give the builders a $10.00 break back in tree costs. Sorry guys, I'm back on the greed thing again. It's a government implant in my brain.

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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #103 on: January 01, 2011, 09:31:29 AM »
Let the market place sort this out.

The Market dictates that TEL is a much cheaper anti-knock additive for petrol than ethanol based alternatives. should we start putting lead in our petrol again?
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Re: Gobal warming or the next Ice Age?
« Reply #104 on: January 01, 2011, 09:48:55 AM »
Why do we need to find "Alternative" energy?

We have tons of oil we can drill. We should drill for it.

Let the market place sort this out.

Oil and Gas are great fuels and DO NOT NEED an alternative. If you want to build more nuke plants I am all for that too. If you want to damn some more rivers I am all for that too. Harness the tides as well.

The alternative energy talking heads need an alternative message.

Either you're trolling or you've totally missed the point. We weren't talking about tomorrow, the next year or even the next decade, but a few decades ahead. At this rate the "tons of oil" will run low eventually and the situation isn't helped at all by the chinese converting from their donkeys and bikes to cars, let alone heating with oil.

The market will sort this out, just as it has before. It will come with increasing prices and at some point there will be a market for an alternative, which isn't isn't so much more expensive anymore. It's not like the human kind will be primarly using oil for centuries ahead, even if there was "tons of oil" available.

Eitherway there will eventually be a better source of energy. Think of it as going from steam/wood/coal to oil.
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