Will maps EVER change

[oTRALFZo]

Somehow Guppy's idea of just letting everything go and give everybody what they want doesnt sound like a bad idea now

[CptTrips]

Hitech's words: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,264069.msg3329554/topicseen.html#msg3329554

Interesting.

Is that assertion consistent with data you've collected?

[Hmm never mind I won't hijack.  I'm on a 12 step program.  ]


Regards,
Wab

[Lusche]

Is that assertion consistent with data you've collected?

There is no public data on subscriptions.

[CptTrips]

There is no public data on subscriptions.

Point taken. 

Would that assertion be consistent with player activity levels you've collected?

Assuming you've collected data across that time span and assuming that increased player activity is possibly indicative of increased "fun" and engagement. (I guess people not having "fun" would stop playing as often whether they are subscribed or not.


Regards,
Wab

[Lusche]

Point taken.  

Would that assertion be consistent with player activity levels you've collected?

Assuming you've collected data across that time span and assuming that increased player activity is possibly indicative of increased "fun" and engagement. (I guess people not having "fun" would stop playing as often whether they are subscribed or not.

I have collected that data, but I'm stepping on thin ice here. There is too much speculation involved, for we don't (and never will now) the percentage of players are on trial v subscription, what other factors do have on influence on player numbers (advertisement, competition, economy and so on)

That being said, there is no indication that things have been different than HT stated
After the split we had a considerable increase in "active players" and even more in kills (as a measure of activity). Only about 2.5 years later numbers started to drop - IMHO way too long of a time that it could have been because of the arena split itself.
(More on arena populations and general player activity in the upcoming "AH stats 2010"   )

[CptTrips]

I have collected that data, but I'm stepping on thin ice here. There is too much speculation involved, for we don't (and never will now) the percentage of players are on trial v subscription, what other factors do have on influence on player numbers (advertisement, competition, economy and so on)

That being said, there is no indication that things have been different than HT stated
After the split we had a considerable increase in "active players" and even more in kills (as a measure of activity). Only about 2.5 years later numbers started to drop - IMHO way too long of a time that it could have been because of the arena split itself.
(More on arena populations and general player activity in the upcoming "AH stats 2010"   )

I think HTC would see that as a perfectly fair statement.

I think everyones interptations are on thin ice.  They have to infer changes in the subscription rates were due to implementing the arena caps merely because they roughly correlated in time.  Its quite possibly true.  Its also quite possible it could be due to any of a dozen other factors.

I personally have not seen one person post "I was not going to subscribe because there were just too many people in this massively-multiplayer arena.  Then HTC implemented caps so I said HECK YEAH!". 

I look foward to your stats release.  I luv numbers.

"You can not control what you do not measure",
Wab

[Lusche]

I personally have not seen one person post "I was not going to subscribe because there were just too many people in this massively-multiplayer arena.  Then HTC implemented caps so I said HECK YEAH!".  

Players that try and do not subscribe rarely do bother with creating an account and posting on the forum, no matter why they didn't subscribe. (That's why AH has a kind of exit poll popping up when you decide not to subscribe)

On the other hand, there was a huge stomping of feet and gnashing of teeths (myself included  ) after the split, with countless public "I quit" threats on this BBS... yet the numbers in game quickly reached record levels


"I will confuse them with numbers & charts"
Snailman

 

[Belial]

No life's not fair and Hitech hates you

[Oldman731]

no sympathy for it.

I'm with this.  No sympathy.

I watch these discussions from afar because I don't play in your arenas.  From my perspective it's obvious that you guys can't be pleased.

- oldman

[bj229r]

170 playing on huge map displeases me. 170 people in small map pleases me.

[321BAR]

Maps have always played a huge role in the warfare around you. whether you see this or not is up to you. If you choose not to notice this, that is your style of gameplay here...

my squad flight plans and tactical planning includes terrain to be a major piece of the puzzle. being successful on a map must include terrain into the equation.

I am to the point where on trinity i can visualize every single freaking tree and mountain/hill from one base to another. Tour resetting map changes im #1 for. Just because people do not get bored flying the same map daily does not mean others dont. some of my squaddies have actually switched to blue arena from orange just for a change of scenery and i personally loved it.

It is up to you, as the player, to make the best of what is there and what is not. You want a map change guys? its simple, get your country to stay organized for more than an hour (or three) at a time to roll a map successfully. But there is ALOT to acheiving this goal and many players most likely dont realize this.

(i am not ranting here. i am giving a personal opinion based on what i have seen/what is factual)

[bj229r]

I can think of nothing less fun than whording empty fields one after another, which is what these 2 maps beg for

[321BAR]

I can think of nothing less fun than whording empty fields one after another, which is what these 2 maps beg for

i just hope people read my statement above.

[LLogann]

The truth of this whole discussion comes down to the need for new maps.  In not reading ALL of these, I have to assume that much can be agreed on by all...... Even the German guy.   

this is true Lusche but still cant tell me that things are not getting boring with these same old fights. I personally dont care i find kills either way   

[Oddball-CAF]

New Maps = more fun these same old maps that are being used are getting old really fast sorry but i have seen more complain about this change than any other change  

  Personally, I love having 250 field maps. That way when the CAP comes into effect and there's 60 total people in
an arena, we can each have six fields.  Then we can play "hunt the porker" when 47 different sectors are lit
up with guys just score paddin'. MORE 250 field maps!