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Offline Muzzy

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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2010, 09:16:20 AM »
On the speed issue:

The first factor is type of aircraft.  Some birds have a very wide turning radius, others can spin around quite easily.  

The second factor is your speed.  In general, the faster you're going, the wider your turns are going to be.  If you need to get around in a hurry, slow down.

Something that frustrated me initially was the fact that I could never seem to gain top speed in an aircraft.  What I didn't realize is that you have to level out after a climb and take a few minutes to let the aircraft accelerate.  If I'm heading for a distant fight, I will climb to 10-12k and then stay level for a few minutes in order to pick up some speed.  

Overall it sounds like you're having difficulty in what's known as the merge...or the moment when two planes spot each other and close in to engage.  Merging is one of the most difficult parts of this game to learn, and perhaps the one that most requires practice in the Training Area.  I'm not an expert by any means but like many others I am willing to help you train.  Click 'roster' on your clipboard and look for my name and page me.  Radio command .p Muzzy <message>


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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2010, 09:17:40 AM »
How does one turn on the lead computing crosshairs?

They're only available in the Training Area.  Hit control-tab and then use tab to lock on a target.


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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2010, 09:20:49 AM »
Thanks Muzzy
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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2010, 09:30:50 AM »

...The second factor is your speed.  In general, the faster you're going, the wider your turns are going to be.  If you need to get around in a hurry, slow down...


This is true if you're above your corner speed. If you're below corner speed you will turn faster when you go faster.

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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2010, 10:00:54 AM »
What are some best turn speeds for given AC?  Just to give us idea.  I tend to fly the F6F and p47.
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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2010, 10:13:51 AM »
What are some best turn speeds for given AC?  Just to give us idea.  I tend to fly the F6F and p47.

Two great sites to learn more about the game are......

Soda's Aircraft Evaluations He has most of the planes in Aces High down with info on how to fight them, how to fight in them and so on.

NetAces. Click on the site map and enjoy! Tons of info for flying in Aces High

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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2010, 10:26:11 AM »
They're only available in the Training Area.  Hit control-tab and then use tab to lock on a target.

you can turn them on in offline mode but I forgot how... somebody who knows could post it and help a ton of folks, myself included, they also work in the offline missions which makes is wayyy handy
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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2010, 10:41:57 AM »
What is your frame rate? I have problems dog fighting because of frame rate issues.

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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2010, 12:46:15 PM »
Can offline missions use computer-aided gunsight?
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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2010, 12:56:59 PM »
you can turn them on in offline mode but I forgot how... somebody who knows could post it and help a ton of folks, myself included

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Options->Arena Setup->Environment->Arena Settings.  Under "General", go to "Flight Mode Flags". Check the "Lead Computing Sight" box.
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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2010, 01:20:36 PM »
Rats! Snailfeller beat me to it. :)
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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2010, 01:54:51 PM »
I've been on someones six emptied mags into an enemy plane at 500-600K and I know I can't be missing them but no Victory.



At that range your only giving away your position.. I rarely open fire until I'm within 300 or less.. Finding someone or a squad to wind with would help you a great deal as well..  :joystick:

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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2010, 01:56:36 PM »
1, Why is it I'm so easy to kill and there so hard to shoot down? I've been on someones six emptied mags into an enemy plane at 500-600K and I know I can't be missing them but no Victory.

Heya Broken Arrow or MrMagoo =)
I'd highly suggest that D500-D600 is way too far away to get good hits to take a plane down. The vast majority of time I can actually get a hit it is usually in the D200-D350 range. It seems very close, but any farther and the aircraft's guns tend to spread out too much to do damage. Usually if I try to estimate distance "by feel" I wait until the wingspan of the enemy aircraft is almost as wide as my crosshair circle ( + ) and that's usually a great time to fire, though, because of moving, lining the aircraft up DIRECTLY with the crosshairs almost never consitutes a hit.

2, Why is it that when I engage another plane there flying circles around me and I'm stuck in ultra slow motion?  When I see another plane, we turn into each other and he past me either right or left side, I try to do a 180 but it seems to take forever as he or maybe she turns on a dime and takes me out with what seems like less that 5 rounds.

There's a LOT of reasons for this. I don't know how much you know about Air Combat, but a small bit of learning ACM (Advanced Combat Maneuvering) is a huge asset. There's a lot of good info here : http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/
I will say this though... sometimes what "feels" right is exactly WRONG, and it really is important to try to learn what you can about where you may have made a mistake in each fight, and sometimes that means either visiting the training arena, dueling arena, or sometimes even asking the guy who shot you down how they did it.

One word of advice... almost NEVER turn "flat", meaning never put your place 90 degrees to the horizon and pull back. That's one of the easiest types of turns to counteract. There ARE planes you can do that in, but not many, and even in those planes there are better ways to do it.

3, Does the enemy have any ships? I never see any enemy aircraft carriers.

Yep. They're out there. Lurking. Stalking. Fightening small children.
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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2010, 03:14:43 PM »
Let try to change your nickname    :)   or buy some glasses   :lol

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Affected people (or animals) consequently tend to think that he is a lunatic, rather than just being nearsighted. In later cartoons he is also an actor, and generally a competent one except for his visual impairment.
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Re: Getting Discuraged.....Again!!
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2010, 03:50:11 PM »
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Options->Arena Setup->Environment->Arena Settings.  Under "General", go to "Flight Mode Flags". Check the "Lead Computing Sight" box.

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