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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2011, 12:33:49 PM »
SEC will start going down as another conference will dominate the bowl games.
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2011, 12:37:28 PM »
the SEC will probably go 7-3 in bowl games this year i doubt they will become a weak conference anytime soon

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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2011, 02:15:46 PM »
the SEC will probably go 7-3 in bowl games this year i doubt they will become a weak conference anytime soon

Never know.  Slowly loosing good coaches. 
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2011, 02:53:13 PM »
Never know.  Slowly loosing good coaches. 

5 things are certain.

1. Florida and Bama will remain powerhouses as they have for the last 60+ years.
2. Fans will not tolerate losing, and the teams will hire newer coaches to get W's.
3. Many of the best recruits will keep coming out of the south where the SEC teams can woo them easily.
4. Teams like Miss. St., Kentucky and S.Car will keep getting better.
5. Tennessee will rise again as a dominant force in the SEC, it will just take a bit of time.

Oh, wait...
6. The SEC is, as it will continue to be for the rest of time, unstoppable.   :devil
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2011, 03:14:57 PM »
Big Ten teams are built to play Big Ten schools.  Once they run into passing offenses of southern conferences, they fail hard.  The Rose Bowl showed that, the Florida/Florida St/Miami teams of the 90's and 2000's.  Big Ten is great for producing offensive linemen and larger positions for the NFL.

I agree some of the best offensive and defensive linemen come out of the Big 10 as well as some pretty big running backs.
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2011, 03:42:07 PM »
5 things are certain.

1. Florida and Bama will remain powerhouses as they have for the last 60+ years.
2. Fans will not tolerate losing, and the teams will hire newer coaches to get W's.
3. Many of the best recruits will keep coming out of the south where the SEC teams can woo them easily.
4. Teams like Miss. St., Kentucky and S.Car will keep getting better.
5. Tennessee will rise again as a dominant force in the SEC, it will just take a bit of time.

Oh, wait...
6. The SEC is, as it will continue to be for the rest of time, unstoppable.   :devil

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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2011, 03:46:07 PM »
Some one brought up the rosebowl.....I remember Ohio State winning that last year....and beating the same Oregon team
that is playing for the national championship this year.
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2011, 03:53:57 PM »
and that same oregon will get exposed by auburn!

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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2011, 04:02:03 PM »
Don't forget that the Big Ten schools populate those regions that are declining in population and economic opportunity. Used to be filled with sons of steel and auto workers - now, not so much.

And those northern midwestern states are losing population to the states that contain the schools of the SEC.

Avoid hubris, for what you're seeing as continuity of tradition in some great SEC schools has more to do with social and economic forces that are beyond our control. Enjoy it, for the worm will eventually turn.
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2011, 04:45:34 PM »
But athletes will always be turned on by the football powerhouses such as Ohio State, Penn State, Nebraska, etc. 

I look at it this way, if you compare a mediocre SEC school such as Kentucky vs the opportunity to play at Ohio State, pretty sure they would choose Ohio State. 

These large schools recruit from all over the country so it doesnt really matter in that case though. 
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2011, 05:08:08 PM »
Don't forget that the Big Ten schools populate those regions that are declining in population and economic opportunity. Used to be filled with sons of steel and auto workers - now, not so much.

And those northern midwestern states are losing population to the states that contain the schools of the SEC.

Avoid hubris, for what you're seeing as continuity of tradition in some great SEC schools has more to do with social and economic forces that are beyond our control. Enjoy it, for the worm will eventually turn.

You must be hanging around on the rivals.com forums.   I really do not think the declining population and drowning economy is a result of south increasing population.   
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2011, 05:52:57 PM »
5 things are certain.

1. Florida and Bama will remain powerhouses as they have for the last 60+ years.
2. Fans will not tolerate losing, and the teams will hire newer coaches to get W's.
3. Many of the best recruits will keep coming out of the south where the SEC teams can woo them easily.
4. Teams like Miss. St., Kentucky and S.Car will keep getting better.
5. Tennessee will rise again as a dominant force in the SEC, it will just take a bit of time.

Oh, wait...
6. The SEC is, as it will continue to be for the rest of time, unstoppable.   :devil

Don't know that I would describe Alabama as a 'powerhouse'

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2006    0   7       
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2003    4   9       
2002    10   3       
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2011, 06:25:26 PM »
You must be hanging around on the rivals.com forums.   I really do not think the declining population and drowning economy is a result of south increasing population.   

Never heard of those forums.

From a macroeconomic standpoint, it's pretty clear that manufacturing jobs have moved from "the rustbelt" to the south, and have been doing so for years. From what I've heard of the 2010 census, a good portion of the increase in southern population has been from intra-US migration, and that has been cited as a trend to watch in the political future - northerners and easterners who move south and west tend to maintain their political viewpoints, so they may start to form a blue - leaning minority in otherwise pretty red southern regions.

Off the top of my head, Michigan actually lost population in the last ten years - due to migration, not due to deaths outnumbering births. Ohio and several other near midwest states grew, but grew more slowly than the country as a whole.
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2011, 06:30:36 PM »
Economics and population density haven't got squat to do with a college football team being good or even a conference being good or not. It might have 50 years ago but certainly not in the last 30 years.

Oh and as for those offensive linemen...IF the NFL is wanting any decent ones they better not look at the way that Alabama defensive line handled Michigan States offensive line. Those 5 boys from up in Michigan were completely outclassed by all of them that Alabama had playing.
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Re: Big Ten.
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2011, 06:43:18 PM »
Never heard of those forums.

From a macroeconomic standpoint, it's pretty clear that manufacturing jobs have moved from "the rustbelt" to the south, and have been doing so for years. From what I've heard of the 2010 census, a good portion of the increase in southern population has been from intra-US migration, and that has been cited as a trend to watch in the political future - northerners and easterners who move south and west tend to maintain their political viewpoints, so they may start to form a blue - leaning minority in otherwise pretty red southern regions.

Off the top of my head, Michigan actually lost population in the last ten years - due to migration, not due to deaths outnumbering births. Ohio and several other near midwest states grew, but grew more slowly than the country as a whole.

Thee must be dozens of ppl on rival.com forum that made that statement. It is quit comic reading the SEC nut heads pounding their chest on how great they think they are. 
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