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Offline Saurdaukar

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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2011, 08:57:55 AM »
i could give 2 flying squirrels butts less.


Then why whine?

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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2011, 09:24:22 AM »
True about watch what you wish for. Change ain't always good. How did the last change you can believe in work out for you?

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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2011, 09:26:11 AM »
True about watch what you wish for. Change ain't always good. How did the last change you can believe in work out for you?

hhhmmmmmm...........

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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2011, 09:38:24 AM »
I like it more.  Off hours arena means you get to fly with everyone.  I do not care how often the arena gets reset.  There are fights of all types all over the map.  I have seen a few complain about the large map in blue and the small map in orange, they want them switched.  That's easy enough, if you want to fly in a large map go blue, if you want small go orange, seems kinda simple.  And is it just me or do most of the "best sticks" fly blue?
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2011, 09:40:01 AM »
I suppose, but I always figure don't trash something unless you can do it better.

It can't be worse than it was before, can it?

I think that is what he is trying to say lol
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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2011, 10:05:20 AM »
i think its better :old:

I agree.

"To be honest" with me the glass is generally half full, but "lets face it" "you arn't going to please all of the people all of the time". I have learned that "the customer is always right" only when the customer is making the choice. In this instance it is clearly "roundabouts and swings". I am sure HTC's business hat is about creating the greatest happiness for the greatest number so maybe HTC could have more poles on what people liked better of the sort that have been presented on log in. eg

I feel the new arena set up is better than the old:

a) Strongly agree

b) Agree

c) Neutral

d) disagree

e) Strongly disagree

f) Wibble badaa badaa  I am a chocolate tea pot.

I think Bip should come up with a better idea and if it is a really good one I am sure the good people at HTC will show their appreciation somehow.



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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2011, 10:05:28 AM »
let em flame. i could give 2 flying squirrels butts less.

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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2011, 11:23:03 AM »
got you covered bro...

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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2011, 12:14:01 PM »
Things may seem great in theory and on paper. But, once they are put to use, some of them just suck. And that's about how it is with the arena lock idea snail came up with. It was a well thought out idea, but its not all that great.
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2011, 12:18:18 PM »
The main negative to it is that it kills momentum.  I'd like to see a stat showing the global population 10 minutes prior to boot/split and 10 minutes after and compare numbers to see what percentage of players quit once they get booted.

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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2011, 12:30:50 PM »
+1 Bip I strongly dislike the new setup

You quit.  no worries.


Oh?  Why not?  What, specifically, is wrong with it?  Not trying to flame here, merely curious.


I'd like to see the answer to this also.

So far I've seen, "all the off-hours players are on TWO of the three teams" and "running", which have nothing to do with the off hours arena.

I'm sure it was more fun not playing because one arena was full and you couldn't get in and refused to go into the other arena because the cool kids weren't there.


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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2011, 12:32:20 PM »
The arena switch thingy is a forced break for me.  One my highly addictive personality needs.  I watch the clock, make sure I'm timing my last mission to end before the boot then I log for a bit, 30 min to an hour most times, do some chores, pet the wife ack, then come back in freshly rejuvinated.  I am not really addicted, I can quit anytime as long as I can log back in, in 24 hours or less.
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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2011, 12:52:58 PM »
The main negative to it is that it kills momentum.  I'd like to see a stat showing the global population 10 minutes prior to boot/split and 10 minutes after and compare numbers to see what percentage of players quit once they get booted.

It kills momentum and activity much less than the old system.


Under the old system, when caps kicked in Orange literally dried out, with many peeps simply sitting in tower to secure their spot. Depending on day, Blue took 2-4 hours(!) to get an acceptable population. Today, it takes no longer than 30 minutes. Personally I have no trouble finding a battle after about 15 minutes.

When the setup changes from peak to offpeak, things are different. It's true, we didn't have such a break before, and being booted from a running battle sucks. Unfortunately we do not have the numbers anymore to sustain a large, two arena setup during offpeak times. The arena reboot interrupts it for a short time, but having significantly less than 100 players on a large map for several totally kills it.

Many of the complaints I see are like "why should I suddenly take a spoon full of bitter medicine, when someone else can drink a whole cup of it?"

Oh and on the map rotation issue: It's mostly a result of not having the weekly reset anymore. Most resets on orange happened to be manually resets on TTuesday. Only blue was reset more frequently by won wars, but that was a direct result of having numbers so low that a single milkrunning squad could had a huge impact.



Overall it's working much better than I had expected, the abandonment of the weekly reset wasn't part of the idea at all ;)
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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2011, 01:11:49 PM »
Guess HiTech needs to call BiPolar and arrange the arena resets around his personal schedual. Bi has always seemed very reasonable when he is happy........

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Re: my whine thread
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2011, 01:25:32 PM »
Why don't you do a graph on FUN, Lusche, the one thing that actually matters? All this talk of business and graphs of attendance mean Jack.
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