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Offline lutzmax

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Re: White Flag
« on: January 11, 2011, 03:51:50 PM »
I am an infrequent poster here Skuzzy.  Is it always the case that you ask a question and lock the thread before anyone can respond?  Seems counter-productive to me.  Isn't the Wish List area a place to have discussions and generate ideas for the game?  Should that be confined to the General forum?

The white flag at towns is a surrender flag.  IRL I would expect a town to surrender after its defenses are down and it has been beaten into submission.  In the current AH model that is not the case.  The surrender flag goes out but ack is still shooting.  Some other kind of notification would be more realistic/appropriate.  Perhaps a flare, or an SOS flag, perhaps solid red.
I thought that was pretty clear from the postings.
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Re: White Flag
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 03:59:37 PM »
The "Wishlist" forum is for players to put out ideas they would like HiTech to consider for implementing in the game.  The very name of your thread was not conducive to making a request.  The post itself was not clear on anything being requested for the game.

This is not a forum to put forth gripes or complaints about the game.

It was my intention to lock that old thread so you might get off to a better start with a new one as that old thread was a bit obfuscated.

I made a comment in the original thread.  I did not ask a question.
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Re: White Flag
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 04:58:15 PM »
The Great and Powerful Oz has spoken!

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Re: White Flag
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 05:52:46 PM »
The Great and Powerful Skuz has spoken!

fixed.
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Re: White Flag
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 06:00:10 PM »
I had gotten from the original thread (yeah, I had to think about it cuz it was wrapped in too much embellishment) that the issue is the white flag comes up when enough buildings have been destroyed.  It does not take into account that the town is actually ready for capture, because apparently if not all ack is down the flag still turns white.  So, you think it's ready, only to get gunned down by the auto ack that's still up.

Is this a bug, or a needed wish?  You decide.  I believe the white flag should not go up until BOTH conditions are met...enough buildings are down and all the ack is down.   :aok
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Re: White Flag
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 06:07:08 PM »
it's actually a good idea, let the flag change only when the town ack is down also.

on second thought, it will be just as confusing, is town not down due to ack or not enough buildings down?

I think either way is confusing.

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Re: White Flag
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 07:39:09 PM »
It would force you to get the AA first and then concentrate on the town. 
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Re: White Flag
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 07:41:54 PM »
Experiment: Can you take a town with a white flag up   with ack up?


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Re: White Flag
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 10:13:24 PM »
Experiment: Can you take a town with a white flag up   with ack up?


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No.  If there's any ack up, the troops die the instant you let them run.
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Re: White Flag
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 10:15:47 PM »
it's actually a good idea, let the flag change only when the town ack is down also.

on second thought, it will be just as confusing, is town not down due to ack or not enough buildings down?

I think either way is confusing.

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Re: White Flag
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 11:21:06 PM »
No.  If there's any ack up, the troops die the instant you let them run.

Stupid question: Are they getting shot?  Out of the line of fire?

If so, then I'd say it's a bug.


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Re: White Flag
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2011, 01:14:23 AM »
Bullets fly through everything. Troops can run through hedgerows that stop tanks.

All that sucks.

As far as the ack goes though. Simply run down there and draw fire. It's not hard.

War is hell, if those poor bastages want to die for their country, I say GOOD!

Edit: Let me clarify here.

So, what is happening is that you see the white flag and drop troops without checking for ack?

How many times has this happened to you guys?

Think about this: You've smashed the town good and still no white flag. You then have to fly down there and draw fire to see where that ack is. What's the difference?

It only takes 50% to take a base. Is it so much to ask that you check carefully for any AA guns that might be up before dropping troops?
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Re: White Flag
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 02:31:20 AM »
I had gotten from the original thread (yeah, I had to think about it cuz it was wrapped in too much embellishment) that the issue is the white flag comes up when enough buildings have been destroyed.  It does not take into account that the town is actually ready for capture, because apparently if not all ack is down the flag still turns white.  So, you think it's ready, only to get gunned down by the auto ack that's still up.

Is this a bug, or a needed wish?  You decide.  I believe the white flag should not go up until BOTH conditions are met...enough buildings are down and all the ack is down.   :aok

so pretty much not ALL the buildings have to be down anymore? was shelling 48 last night on off-hours, white flag came up but i let off one last HC salvo anyways, and destroyed 2 buildings even tho it was a white flag. i was thinking there was a bug with the white flag because i thought every building had to be destroyed first  :headscratch:

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Re: White Flag
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2011, 03:22:12 AM »
its been like this for 2 months i think.  only 50% of the town needs to be down now, i think.


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Re: White Flag
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2011, 03:33:56 AM »
its been like this for 2 months i think.  only 50% of the town needs to be down now, i think.


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"But, but, the ACK still shoots at us. I want the flag to tell me when the ACK is down so i don't have to get dirty and engage it at close range."

Edit: Here's a  :neener: so you know I'm not being too serious. I know some guys are sensitive.

Really though, awful wish. No reason to spend time changing code for something so simple.



Way to be lousy.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 03:39:05 AM by Melvin »
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