Kill to Killed ratio

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what I find funny is those that are worried about dieing in a "game" Erich Hartmann.....please the guy would have really friggin died if he did not fly the way he did....real life....Game about air combat....oh I gotta stay alive...so I dont die.....it really is quite funny , the guy who posted that, what was it 40/1 kd? lol someone said he was getting 2 kills per hour...lolol oh man thats just sad, shows you right there score/rank means squat....see how long he last in a fight against me even with out flying these last few months.....hell my "rank" was never below the 1000's    heck whatever though it is there $15 they can fly however they want, and I can laugh at em just the same        ;-)     

[Ardy123]

I have chosen as of the last few months to emulate great pilots like Hartmann and Cpt David McCampbell, USN. I fly only fighter missions and I am now focused on flying smart....
Loose Deuce

No offence, but that explains why last time I fought the Loose Deuce in the MA, the minute they lost the adv in a fight they would run to a horde of friendlies....

Eric Hartmann didn't have the advantage of numerical superiority....
some accounts state that the Luftwaffe was out numbered 25x1. It takes much much more than timid flying to survive in that environment.

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You dont need numbers , only faster plane with more alt 

Leaving a fight when you beeing overwhelmed by hordes of  la7s, and 109k's, spit16a  is really smart actually ,specially if you are flying an undermodelled
A8 made of led.

[Ardy123]

You dont need numbers , only faster plane with more alt 

Leaving a fight when you beeing overwhelmed by hordes of  la7s, and 109k's, spit16a  is really smart actually ,specially if you are flying an undermodelled
A8 made of led.

My point was that Eric had had and needed more than timid flying to survive as long as he did...

[mthrockmor]

Ardy and Ink, that's kind of funny.

About Eric Hartmann and his aggression. He had 345 kills. He also had 1,404 combat sorties with engagement in roughly 850 of them. This means that for every kill he had almost 2.5 engagements. I know, its a game though how aggressive was Hartmann? I think very aggressive but only when he put himself in position with as many advantages as possible. As he described his flying he was a Boom and Zoom expert: Get in with high speed, hold your fire until the enemy filled your windscreen, then blow out of there with as much speed into alt as possible.

I wonder how many of those kills came in multiples. I bet that of his 850 engagements he only logged kills in a 200 or less of them, accounting for multiples. This would mean that he only made kills in 25% or less of his fights.

To each their own. For the person who started this thread, you have lots of different views to consider.

Boo
Proud member of Loose Deuce since Aug 2010

[Furball]

Have you noticed whom is absent from this discussion.  The guys with the high K/D ratios.  Can't say I blame them as the conversation is dominated by what seems to be opinions that say you should't have too high a K/D score.

I have a high K/D ratio, but that is more due to me being lucky and not having died in a 262, which is pretty much all i have flown in fighter mode because whenever I can I score as attack, and the 262 doesn't have an attack mode (yet?) than a gameplay choice.

To sum this thread up - everyone likes to play this game differently.  It would be boring if everyone did exactly the same thing. It is their $15.00 and all that.

[Kazaa]

The score system is good for comparing yourself to yourself, not to others.

Quote worthy material because every subscriber of Aces High will have a different approach to playing the game.

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first off, Hartmann had 352 kills....there is nothing you can tell me about the Blond Knight, that I dont allready know....second off....he was a great pilot in the way he flew, the whole point is he woulda really died, no one here really dies......but whatever LD and all the other people who are afraid for thier cartoon lives can fly how they want dont bother me at all I attack the Hourds, so I always find a fight, and when ever I catch any of you "realism" flyers alone or with just a couple its a easy fight to kill ya, but hey fly the way you want more lemmings for me to laugh at.          ;-)

[Zoney]

I don't laught AT anyone that plays here, that would be poor sportsmanship.  I don't denigrate anyone's playing style or abilities, that would be poor sportsmanship.
It is difficult to ask without seeming to be negative Ink but, why don't you play anymore and if you do not play why do you come here to the boards and offer your opinions which as I have observed seem to mostly be negative and derrogatory sir ?

I am acutely aware of my poor kills per hour.  If I played for score, I would change that.  Previously I described how I play and the enjoyment I get from it.  I realize that it may seem an excuse for a poor kill per hour but it takes time to fly as I do, and I enjoy that part very much.  I enjoy the feeling that just flying here gives me and find for me it is unneccessary to hurry to get kills to have fun.

[DrBone1]

I don't laught AT anyone that plays here, that would be poor sportsmanship.  I don't denigrate anyone's playing style or abilities, that would be poor sportsmanship.
It is difficult to ask without seeming to be negative Ink but, why don't you play anymore and if you do not play why do you come here to the boards and offer your opinions which as I have observed seem to mostly be negative and derrogatory sir ?

I am acutely aware of my poor kills per hour.  If I played for score, I would change that.  Previously I described how I play and the enjoyment I get from it.  I realize that it may seem an excuse for a poor kill per hour but it takes time to fly as I do, and I enjoy that part very much.  I enjoy the feeling that just flying here gives me and find for me it is unneccessary to hurry to get kills to have fun.

having a High K/D means nothing without kill per hour .I understand everything you are saying and respect you for speaking the truth anytime you wanna hit the DA and learn some things let me know bud   Ink no need to be so blunt with it but i am sure most agree  

[mthrockmor]

Actually, what am I being nice for?! Ardy and Ink have insulted me.

So I went through the normal thoughts, first diplomatic and all. Even found Hartmann on Wikipedia and tried to razzle and dazzle Ink with some info. That obviously didn't work. Then I thought about throwing around the Loose Deuce record against the Army of Muppets in the Squad Dueling League. Didn't carry through with that since, 1) I wasn't a member of the LDs last year and I don't think I should brag about work that wasn't mine, and 2) I respect the Army of Muppets so why drag them into it when only one of theirs was off on a tangent. Then I thought about challenging both of them to some 1v1 time in the DA, but under the circumstances that would likely be bad form so...

I'm challenging both of you to sign up to Battle Over Germany, Axis side. Put your aggressive money where that keyboard chops are. You get to fly 109s and 190s, and since I am handling final assignments I can let you cherry pick which staffel (German for squad) you want. So....

Are you up to the challenge? Are you going to fly Battle Over Germany with us and demonstrate how I am less then aggressive enough and you both fly with the spirit of the blonde ace?

Warmest,
Boo
Loose Deuce
XO and recruiting officer for Germans
Battle Over Germany

PS We have numerous open slots left and we need brash talking, overly aggressive killers to take those spots, and to help lead lots of noobs in the proper ways of killing with elan.
PPS My stats since everyone measure it different ways: Kills per death, 3.37 per; kills per hour, 5.47; kills per sortie, 2.01 - Interesting since my goal is not based on any of those but to bring up how many sorties I land, which is below my target of 50%. What does this mean? Little but I am willing to sort it out in the DA for fun, no acrimony. Always up for school; sometimes I teach, sometimes I learn.

[DrBone1]

Actually, what am I being nice for?! Ardy and Ink have insulted me.

So I went through the normal thoughts, first diplomatic and all. Even found Hartmann on Wikipedia and tried to razzle and dazzle Ink with some info. That obviously didn't work. Then I thought about throwing around the Loose Deuce record against the Army of Muppets in the Squad Dueling League. Didn't carry through with that since, 1) I wasn't a member of the LDs last year and I don't think I should brag about work that wasn't mine, and 2) I respect the Army of Muppets so why drag them into it when only one of theirs was off on a tangent. Then I thought about challenging both of them to some 1v1 time in the DA, but under the circumstances that would likely be bad form so...

I'm challenging both of you to sign up to Battle Over Germany, Axis side. Put your aggressive money where that keyboard chops are. You get to fly 109s and 190s, and since I am handling final assignments I can let you cherry pick which staffel (German for squad) you want. So....

Are you up to the challenge? Are you going to fly Battle Over Germany with us and demonstrate how I am less then aggressive enough and you both fly with the spirit of the blonde ace?

Warmest,
Boo
Loose Deuce
XO and recruiting officer for Germans
Battle Over Germany

PS We have numerous open slots left and we need brash talking, overly aggressive killers to take those spots, and to help lead lots of noobs in the proper ways of killing with elan.
PPS My stats since everyone measure it different ways: Kills per death, 3.37 per; kills per hour, 5.47; kills per sortie, 2.01 - Interesting since my goal is not based on any of those but to bring up how many sorties I land, which is below my target of 50%. What does this mean? Little but I am willing to sort it out in the DA for fun, no acrimony. Always up for school; sometimes I teach, sometimes I learn.

I want to watch these fights  please accept Ink,Bunnies

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I would gladly acccept,except I am not conected to internet.....wont be for a bit yet.........(excep via this phone)and besides I was just pokin fun at ALL who are afraid to die in a game, those who avoid combat in a combat game, comparing real life to this game is asinine,period.     if you were insulted by my words...."if the truth hurts change your reality".....its a game.....flyin the way you and many others do is silly....but like I said its your 15$ no skin off my back:-)  I was not insulting you! I was razzin ya...    and as far as Bone goes, im just a blunt truthfull guy cant help it, I am what I am.  You know first hand I dont pull no punches and give respect to those that deserve it, I fly the way I am, with integrity and Honor.     

[DrBone1]

 and as far as Bone goes, im just a blunt truthfull guy cant help it, I am what I am.  You know first hand I dont pull no punches and give respect to those that deserve it, I fly the way I am, with integrity and Honor.      

Thats why we love ya!  

[Dead Man Flying]

having a High K/D means nothing without kill per hour.

Not really.  A high K/D ratio coupled with a really high K/D screams of someone gaming fighter score through vulching (and scoring more risky flights as Attack) or someone who regularly flies very fast, extraordinarily lethal, and highly survivable planes like the 262 or Tempest.  That's not to say that a few people can't manage both high K/D and high K/H without routinely doing these sorts of things, but let's be honest with ourselves here.