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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2011, 12:08:47 PM »
I was talking about the housing itself being made from plastic.  It has been a couple of years since I was crawling around in the engine compartment of a BMW.
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2011, 12:14:55 PM »
It's honestly hard to picture in my pea little brain but I don't doubt it for a second. 
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2011, 12:21:08 PM »
I was talking about the housing itself being made from plastic.  It has been a couple of years since I was crawling around in the engine compartment of a BMW.

AAHH...GOTCHA.

 the oldest i've worked on lately has been a 2000 3 series. it has a plastic t-stat housing, the thermostat is part of the housing, and it has a bosch type connector on it.
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2011, 12:42:01 PM »
AAHH...GOTCHA.

 the oldest i've worked on lately has been a 2000 3 series. it has a plastic t-stat housing, the thermostat is part of the housing, and it has a bosch type connector on it.

Wow!  That cannot be the original.  The OEM units usually make it for 5 years, or so.

I was following a 540 home one night.  He was doing about 85MPH and the housing blew.  Engine siezed before he could stop.

There is an aftermarket steel housing available.  Not sure for what engines though.
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« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2011, 01:31:13 PM »
what's financing got to do with this?

 :rofl  seriously.
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2011, 05:22:40 PM »
i've never had a recurring heater core clog.
Now you just lying. No matter how poorly mainanted cooling system is, it shouldn't turn coolant into brown foamy thick substance because of bad design.
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2011, 05:43:49 PM »
Now you just lying. No matter how poorly mainanted cooling system is, it shouldn't turn coolant into brown foamy thick substance because of bad design.

foamy stuff doesn't clog heater cores.

 the crap that the antifreeze circulates when you don't flush your cooling system does.

 or in the case of cadillac, there's the cadillac asperins that tend to do that....but i don't think we need to go there.
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2011, 05:43:57 PM »
Wow!  That cannot be the original.  The OEM units usually make it for 5 years, or so.

I was following a 540 home one night.  He was doing about 85MPH and the housing blew.  Engine siezed before he could stop.

There is an aftermarket steel housing available.  Not sure for what engines though.
How long does it take to stop a vehicle doing 85 MPH, 10-15 seconds? Engine overheated and ceased in 15 second?  There is a bright red light in temp gauge that comes on whenever there is an overheat danger.  People love to cover that up with a picture of loved once.  
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2011, 05:49:06 PM »
foamy stuff doesn't clog heater cores.

 the crap that the antifreeze circulates when you don't flush your cooling system does.

 
Indeed, we flush it because it looses it's properties and turns corrosive. 
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« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2011, 05:51:41 PM »
How long does it take to stop a vehicle doing 85 MPH, 10-15 seconds? Engine overheated and ceased in 15 second?  There is a bright red light in temp gauge that comes on whenever there is an overheat danger.  People love to cover that up with a picture of loved once.  

 they cover up the CEL here that way. when i get a car in for an oil change, if i see any pictures on the instrument cluster, i look behind it.

 it was also more than likely running redline temp for some time before the housing finally let loose.

 in our shop race car, the only thing that saved that engine, was the fact that i like redundancy. besides the oil pressure gauge, i put a big red light on the dash. hooked it to a switch set for 20psi.

 sure enough, on a round i won.......think i ran a 10.23 or somewhere close......right on my number. lifted the throttle to decelerate, and that big red light nearly blinded me. i looked over at the oil pressure just as i reached up to shut the ignition off....and sure enough, it was dropping just past 20psi according to the gauge.
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2011, 05:53:37 PM »
Indeed, we flush it because it looses it's properties and turns corrosive. 

 and what happens when it becomes corrosive?
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2011, 07:49:05 PM »
and what happens when it becomes corrosive?
Yes Cap, i should say contaminates cooling system and clogs a lotta crap, but. Most cooling system will not be as corroded as Taurus's. The reason for that corrosion we cant seem to agree on.
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2011, 07:52:32 PM »
Yes Cap, i should say contaminates cooling system and clogs a lotta crap, but. Most cooling system will not be as corroded as Taurus's. The reason for that corrosion we cant seem to agree on.

lack of maintenance. plain and simple. and i've NEVER seen anything screwed up as much as a poorly maintained gm cooling system with dexcool in it.
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2011, 07:57:20 PM »
lack of maintenance. plain and simple. and i've NEVER seen anything screwed up as much as a poorly maintained gm cooling system with dexcool in it.
Again, we disagree.  Anyway it was fun, thank you for your time. :salute
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Re: could one of you engineering types
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2011, 08:16:54 PM »
Again, we disagree.  Anyway it was fun, thank you for your time. :salute

well.....just so ya know....i posted the original post half in fun....half venting, because i had to tell my customer a simple heater hose was costing her as much as this dam thing is.

 i didn't intend to get any arguments started here. i am somewhat disappointed my favorite engineer didn't post though. i'm hurt. devastated.  :x
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