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Offline JUGgler

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« on: February 04, 2011, 09:59:15 AM »
Was gonna bump a thread by lilmak on this but chose not to, although I too think somehow letting the community know who the moderators are would at leat give the community confidence that they weren't muted by someone who was "egging" them on.

I consistantly see texts such as this, FU, STFU, sweety, F^%K OFF, LMFAO and many "covert statements that are designed as under handed insults, many many many such as directly insulting ones family, mother, wife in a way that does not include "direct vulgar words" yet are every bit as insulting, and EVERYONE can read between the lines.
 Now with all that said I am plenty guilty of anecdotal insults, remarks and challenges. Let me be clear

  I AM NOT INNOCENT OF THIS BEHAVIOR

But there seems to be a lack of fairness in this system, last night a certain "v" was spewing many offhanded insuts around on 200 to include ALL of the examples I've stated above. I replied in an offhanded fashion and was immediately muted for 10 minutes, this particular"v" continued spewing on 200 for easily another 1/2 hour don't know if he logged or was finally muted. My reply contained NO vulgar words but was insulting in the same way as said "v" was texting.

Now if I get muted I OWN it I have no problem with consiquences to my actions, but I am starting to think there may be a couple mods who maintain a grudge or are "unequal" in their decision making process for whom they will mute.

At the minimum it would be nice that when you get muted the prompt includes the tag of the moderator so at least you know IF it was the moderator who was "instigating" the 200 spew!



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Re: Mods
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 10:01:14 AM »
It seems to be a fair enough request.  +1   I won't go into my rant of the crap talk is unnecessary because at least you owned it Sir.

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Re: Mods
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 10:02:38 AM »
They need more mods, much of the childishness going on is proof positive.

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Re: Mods
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 10:05:45 AM »
Was gonna bump a thread by lilmak on this but chose not to, although I too think somehow letting the community know who the moderators are would at leat give the community confidence that they weren't muted by someone who was "egging" them on.

I consistantly see texts such as this, FU, STFU, sweety, F^%K OFF, LMFAO and many "covert statements that are designed as under handed insults, many many many such as directly insulting ones family, mother, wife in a way that does not include "direct vulgar words" yet are every bit as insulting, and EVERYONE can read between the lines.
 Now with all that said I am plenty guilty of anecdotal insults, remarks and challenges. Let me be clear

  I AM NOT INNOCENT OF THIS BEHAVIOR

But there seems to be a lack of fairness in this system, last night a certain "v" was spewing many offhanded insuts around on 200 to include ALL of the examples I've stated above. I replied in an offhanded fashion and was immediately muted for 10 minutes, this particular"v" continued spewing on 200 for easily another 1/2 hour don't know if he logged or was finally muted. My reply contained NO vulgar words but was insulting in the same way as said "v" was texting.

Now if I get muted I OWN it I have no problem with consiquences to my actions, but I am starting to think there may be a couple mods who maintain a grudge or are "unequal" in their decision making process for whom they will mute.

At the minimum it would be nice that when you get muted the prompt includes the tag of the moderator so at least you know IF it was the moderator who was "instigating" the 200 spew!



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Re: Mods
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 10:15:19 AM »
I have never been muted in game or disabled from these boards in the twelve years I have paid to play here.  Came close once or twice, but always managed to stay on the right side of the line. 

It has been frustrating to me personally over these last few years to see such low quality character behavior from such a wide and diverse group of people.  The culture of smack talk and the pride taken by so many in its application on internet forums and in MMO games, especially this game, is a truly regrettable phenomenon.
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Re: Mods
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 10:21:55 AM »
-1 No need to know who the mods are.  Not knowing when a mod is on is important, not knowing who they are keeps them safe from verbal attacks.  If you feel like you were unfairly muted, you can always e-mail HTC for an explination.

Otherwise, don't forget to use the .report function. 
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Re: Mods
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 10:22:20 AM »
I've never been muted But I would also like to know who the mods are...

Can we start chanting

"Reveal the Mods"

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Re: Mods
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 10:42:54 AM »
Was gonna bump a thread by lilmak on this but chose not to, although I too think somehow letting the community know who the moderators are would at leat give the community confidence that they weren't muted by someone who was "egging" them on.

I consistantly see texts such as this, FU, STFU, sweety, F^%K OFF, LMFAO and many "covert statements that are designed as under handed insults, many many many such as directly insulting ones family, mother, wife in a way that does not include "direct vulgar words" yet are every bit as insulting, and EVERYONE can read between the lines.
 Now with all that said I am plenty guilty of anecdotal insults, remarks and challenges. Let me be clear

  I AM NOT INNOCENT OF THIS BEHAVIOR

But there seems to be a lack of fairness in this system, last night a certain "v" was spewing many offhanded insuts around on 200 to include ALL of the examples I've stated above. I replied in an offhanded fashion and was immediately muted for 10 minutes, this particular"v" continued spewing on 200 for easily another 1/2 hour don't know if he logged or was finally muted. My reply contained NO vulgar words but was insulting in the same way as said "v" was texting.

Now if I get muted I OWN it I have no problem with consiquences to my actions, but I am starting to think there may be a couple mods who maintain a grudge or are "unequal" in their decision making process for whom they will mute.

At the minimum it would be nice that when you get muted the prompt includes the tag of the moderator so at least you know IF it was the moderator who was "instigating" the 200 spew!



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Re: Mods
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 10:45:50 AM »
I would like to know who the mods are, but there is no need for you to know who exactly muted you.
Also Jayhawk makes a very good point, so I have to say -1 for the whole thing.

-1 No need to know who the mods are.  Not knowing when a mod is on is important, not knowing who they are keeps them safe from verbal attacks.  If you feel like you were unfairly muted, you can always e-mail HTC for an explination.

Otherwise, don't forget to use the .report function. 

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Re: Mods
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 10:46:59 AM »
Was gonna bump a thread by lilmak on this but chose not to, although I too think somehow letting the community know who the moderators are would at leat give the community confidence that they weren't muted by someone who was "egging" them on.

I consistantly see texts such as this, FU, STFU, sweety, F^%K OFF, LMFAO and many "covert statements that are designed as under handed insults, many many many such as directly insulting ones family, mother, wife in a way that does not include "direct vulgar words" yet are every bit as insulting, and EVERYONE can read between the lines.
 Now with all that said I am plenty guilty of anecdotal insults, remarks and challenges. Let me be clear

  I AM NOT INNOCENT OF THIS BEHAVIOR

But there seems to be a lack of fairness in this system, last night a certain "v" was spewing many offhanded insuts around on 200 to include ALL of the examples I've stated above. I replied in an offhanded fashion and was immediately muted for 10 minutes, this particular"v" continued spewing on 200 for easily another 1/2 hour don't know if he logged or was finally muted. My reply contained NO vulgar words but was insulting in the same way as said "v" was texting.

Now if I get muted I OWN it I have no problem with consiquences to my actions, but I am starting to think there may be a couple mods who maintain a grudge or are "unequal" in their decision making process for whom they will mute.

At the minimum it would be nice that when you get muted the prompt includes the tag of the moderator so at least you know IF it was the moderator who was "instigating" the 200 spew!



JUGgler

If everyone would keep their discussions clean, there would be no need for a MODERATOR. I play most every night, and continue to see the same 5-8 guys trash talking and using  not very well disguised expletives every night. I do not let my kid read 200 when they are on.

The sad part is that most of these guys are adults. I think we need more mods!! There is no reason to know who the mods are If you conduct yourself well in the arenas on channel 200, you should not have to worry about mods banning you.....

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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 10:50:02 AM »
I was warned once and if I remember right, it was for a word that should have no cause for warning.... but it had some of the letters. I have no problem not knowing who the mods are. I think it is important they stay under cover.

I also do not think the .report works except when a group gets together to to mass mute someone.... usually kids doing that from what I have seen of it. Of course we do not see the "goings on" behind the scenes so who knows. It may work fine.

I'm not sure how the .report works but it should summon a mod that is online to watch what is going on at that time. If it just goes to a file on a server to be looked at later it seems it would be less effective and probably not as clear as to what actually was going on. Not to mention a heavy load for one individual to shuffle through.

All in all I think the AH staff does a great job dealing with so many folks.

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Re: Mods
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 10:52:52 AM »
I r th3 m0d!
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 10:57:03 AM »
give me mod powers.....if you guys wanna see muting going on....give em to me........ :devil

 
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Re: Mods
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 10:59:30 AM »
Mods should stay hidden, but I agree there should be a lot more mods on.

If there were more on, the chance of a mod getting away with egging someone on would be slimmers as a 2nd or 3rd mod might be there to mute the first.

I think the mods should also step up their muting, with maybe a server message on 200 saying so and so has been muted. If more people "see" that activness of the mods it might help some people to NOT step over the line.

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 11:00:36 AM »
I think that revealing the MODS could have unfortunate consequences for those particular moderators, including people attempting to get preferrential treatment, as well as constant attacks from those too immature to deal with authority.

That being said, I wonder if perhaps MORE mods are needed, and the mods do not know who each other is, so a mod can mute a mod if needed, and a public "XXXX has been muted for YYYYY (behavior, language, etc)? I don't play as often as I'd like but I still tend to jump on at least once a week, and 200 just gets... just not right at times.
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