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Re: Mods
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2011, 12:14:02 PM »
the arenas would become so quiet on 200 if i were a mod, that i wouldn't be a mod for more than a day or so.......
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Re: Mods
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2011, 12:14:52 PM »
Mods.  :noid

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Re: Mods
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2011, 12:16:01 PM »
You guys are free to apply to become mods and set a new standard in mod performance.
I can't pass the entrance exam...I have a prior record, lmao!  But consider this an application if Skuzzy would take it...none of that internet-chase-me poo bothers me one bit...and cleaning up my OWN act would be an immediate priority.

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Re: Mods
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2011, 12:16:18 PM »
  I was muted once   :furious ..................but for good reason. Never had a problem since  :cool:

  What I said was ..............lets just say offensive to all races and creeds. Got a few lol's though.   :lol
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Re: Mods
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2011, 12:16:47 PM »
"Such is the nature of war.  By protecting others, you save yourself."

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Re: Mods
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2011, 12:16:56 PM »
Disagree completely.  Uniformed police officers are more effective than undercover...why?  Because undercover are there to CATCH the perp in the act...Uniformed are there to PREVENT the act altogether by being conspicuous.  They are mods...they are fully capable of keeping themselves safe from verbal attacks.  WADR, that is ridiculous.  That job should be represented by people with good judgement and thick skins.

And there is another point...if someone is stupid enough to actually verbally berate a Mod, that player should never be allowed to play this game EVER again...NEVER, EVER, NEVER.  Its like attacking a police officer only not as bad, lol.

Ultimately, their undercover status prohibits anyone from reaching out to them for assistance and keeps them from being held accountable, and both are extemely important issues to maintain order.

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Since the mods are volunteers and simply players, I'm still sticking with no.  If there is ever any kind of compensation for someone moderating game-play, then I would understand and probably support them being known.  Just look at what it's like when Skuzzy logs in now, 1000 questions about stuff.  I think a mod would be faced with a huge workload of, so and so did this, so and so said this, why didn't so and so get muted, if we knew their identity.  They would be overloaded with PMs and that would make it difficult for them to even do what they were suppose to in the first place.
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Re: Mods
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2011, 12:23:38 PM »
So, I'm working a scenario, checking settings, letting people in and out of the arena, maintaining the clock, doing all the things one does while working a scenario, and I glance up and see a bit of text that just does not belong, and the player is warned for it.  Said player mouths off about it, I mute him and get back to work.  Don't have time to mess with a kid who can't compose himself in the first place, sure won't waste a minute arguing with them or explaining my actions to him.  He did it, his problem, end of discussion.

Now, that's if I am working in an event.  Mods in the main arenas are probably just flying.  Yet you expect them to sit around doing nothing but babysitting the text buffer making sure everyone is treated fairly in their punishment?  I don't envy the ma mods, some of the things you guys come up with in here is beyond belief  :rofl

More mods is not the answer, far far more common sense is the answer.  Don't do it, problem solved.  What happens to someone else is completely irrelevant.  You are responsible for your actions and your actions alone.

When was the last time you saw some guy pulled over on the highway and you pulled over and told the cop, Sorry officer, I didn't know you were here and I was speeding also.   Wouldn't do that?  I thought you wanted everything to be fair?


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Re: Mods
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2011, 12:26:33 PM »
 I was muted once   :furious ..................but for good reason. Never had a problem since  :cool:

  What I said was ..............lets just say offensive to all races and creeds. Got a few lol's though.   :lol

i don't think i've ever been muted in the game....got a week vacation from here though.
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Re: Mods
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2011, 12:42:36 PM »
When was the last time you saw some guy pulled over on the highway and you pulled over and told the cop, Sorry officer, I didn't know you were here and I was speeding also.   Wouldn't do that?  I thought you wanted everything to be fair?
Give me a break.  

What??  The more likely scenario is you see the guy pulled over and EVERYONE has slowed down when passing the cop who has pulled the guy over.  In point of fact, SEEING the cop (knowing who the mods are and that they are ONLINE) slows traffic down. 

JUG's point is that the 200 buffer exchanges are almost always grouped and if you can see one guy's infraction, you can darn sure see the other guy's; so to use your example, no, when the guy speeding in front of me gets pulled over, I won't stop but I will drive on by and chuckle that he got caught and I didn't (just like the v did, I'm sure, to JUG)...the difference in the two examples is the cop can't multi-task in a vehicle can he?..because if he could like our mods,(mod can see ALL the transgressions and infractions simultaneously) I would have gotten pulled over too and I wouldn't be laughing so hard would I?

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Re: Mods
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2011, 12:46:46 PM »
...maybe a server message on 200 saying so and so has been muted. If more people "see" that activness of the mods it might help some people to NOT step over the line.

Muting, either auto or mod initiated should be announced to the arena.

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Re: Mods
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2011, 12:47:54 PM »
What??  The more likely scenario is you see the guy pulled over and EVERYONE has slowed down when passing the cop who has pulled the guy over.  In point of fact, SEEING the cop (knowing who the mods are and that they are ONLINE) slows traffic down. 

JUG's point is that the 200 buffer exchanges are almost always grouped and if you can see one guy's infraction, you can darn sure see the other guy's; so to use your example, no, when the guy speeding in front of me gets pulled over, I won't stop but I will drive on by and chuckle that he got caught and I didn't (just like the v did, I'm sure, to JUG)...the difference in the two examples is the cop can't multi-task in a vehicle can he?..because if he could like our mods,(mod can see ALL the transgressions and infractions simultaneously) I would have gotten pulled over too and I wouldn't be laughing so hard would I?

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no one slows down when a cop has someone pulled over.....at least not on the highway. they know he's busy, and buzz along on their marry way.
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Re: Mods
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2011, 12:51:45 PM »
I'm responsible for my behavior and no one else, just because someone else is mouthing off that doesn't give me the excuse to behave poorly.  If I do and I get muted then that's my fault, whether the other guy does or not is irrelevant, one persons bad behavior doesn't justify more bad behavior.

We have tools in place to deal with obnoxious players, we can squelch them, we can report them.  In fact I reported a player a few weeks ago for some really over the top rhetoric that was being spewed on 200.  Did he get a mute/ban? or did he just decide to take a couple weeks off?  I don't know and it really doesn't matter either way I haven't had to listen to him recently.  
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Re: Mods
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2011, 12:54:27 PM »
no one slows down when a cop has someone pulled over.....at least not on the highway. they know he's busy, and buzz along on their marry way.

You're nuts...argumentum ad argumentum...because on the highway, they never have any other police cars around right?
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Re: Mods
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2011, 12:55:24 PM »
ahh...
I judge my flying skills by the number of times someone gets on my vox to cuss me out or pms me with attempts at insults.

more mods... the more difficult it will be for me to know if I'm doing the right moves. :devil


On a more serious level, I'm with changeup here, I myself have experienced the same stuff. Also,  when there are other players who I'm just joking around with but others may think I'm being serious. Several playful exchanges between warhed and I have led to me getting muted for example. None of them were actual 'verbal attacks' as we're just messing around, and nothing we are saying is serious by any means.
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Re: Mods
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2011, 12:55:37 PM »
So, I'm working a scenario, checking settings, letting people in and out of the arena, maintaining the clock, doing all the things one does while working a scenario, and I glance up and see a bit of text that just does not belong, and the player is warned for it.  Said player mouths off about it, I mute him and get back to work.  Don't have time to mess with a kid who can't compose himself in the first place, sure won't waste a minute arguing with them or explaining my actions to him.  He did it, his problem, end of discussion.

Now, that's if I am working in an event.  Mods in the main arenas are probably just flying.  Yet you expect them to sit around doing nothing but babysitting the text buffer making sure everyone is treated fairly in their punishment?  I don't envy the ma mods, some of the things you guys come up with in here is beyond belief  :rofl

More mods is not the answer, far far more common sense is the answer.  Don't do it, problem solved.  What happens to someone else is completely irrelevant.  You are responsible for your actions and your actions alone.

When was the last time you saw some guy pulled over on the highway and you pulled over and told the cop, Sorry officer, I didn't know you were here and I was speeding also.   Wouldn't do that?  I thought you wanted everything to be fair?


Give me a break.  


Agreed.  The "mute-everyone-who-deserves-it-or-don't-mute-anyone-at-all" syndrome that keeps popping up on these boards is ridiculously impractical.  The mod may not have been logged on when the flame-fest first began, he may have missed some of the trash talk scrolling by on the buffer, he may be trying to make a distinction between actual foul language and merely unpleasant talk.  AND he's trying to play the game, too.  I can tell you that virtually every time I've muted someone I've gotten this kind of complaint from the muted player and from his friends.

As many have already pointed out, the solution is simple enough.  Don't participate in the trash talk and you won't get muted.  It isn't rocket science.

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