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Offline oTRALFZo

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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2011, 11:10:17 AM »
SWEET, I shall impose my long awaited organization just for the intent of my own fun:

NSSCBSC. {Not So Secret Clubbing Baby Seals Club}

A place to where spies can find a good home and PM me mission details as to where they are coming. Only fair right? If the object in this game is not to avoid combat, then surely me and at most 4 other guys that decide to up to intercept shouldnt be a burden to others fun even if the odds are 20vs4. Bring on the hordes and watch the cries if this were ever to be.
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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2011, 11:17:32 AM »
I havn't seen anyone point out that the white flag may also creates more defense simply because you can also see the town is prepared from most fields as the defender.

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Problem is by NO means by the game developers. The players have the tools in front of them to make a very satisfying game for everyone. Problem is with those tools being exploited really makes a disgusting gaming enviroment for a majority of players. So you have skills in gathering the herd to meet your objective..most dont and dont have a desire too. Seems these are the people that are having "fun" while new subscriptions that venture in the MAs are being steered in that direction of safety in #s because its the only way to surive there and honestly..it shouldnt be that way
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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2011, 11:24:19 AM »
Trust me, THey dont want it that way. YOU do. Reasons that you get such lopsided #s is because squads like yours have 0 respect for other players in the arenas. You go out of your way to avoid confrontation with other players unless you have overwhelming numbers.

Once  (most) players see that the mantra of that arena resembles AIRQUAKE and players are more interested in hording, they log. Perhaps to the other arena or in hopes that things are evened up a bit.
Although dont be so flattered to think that players are leaving "en masse" purely because of the Vguys. Your style of play just adds to the ceasepool of the gaming enviroment YOU in turn create.

Perhaps given the track record you guys have of attacking undefended targets in a full arena to hording bases when people are leaving a locked arena to running a multi-winged squad at 2am. Perhaps HTC can impliment a Varena for you guys so you can reset maps unopposed

I just resigned from the Devils Brigade the other day because I want to do my own thing for awhile. Having been a member since it was the Devils Rejects and later the V Brigade, I can tell you that your comments are not even close to being correct.  Hording as you call it occurs on all countries. The Bish and Nits have a history of doing major hordes and rolling bases after base as well. It happens on all sides at one time or another. I can show you the screens shots from just the other day.. Your idea that they attack undefended targets is incorrect as well.. I think that you are using the Devils Brigade as a punching bag to compensate for your own personal issues with the game.. As many other players do as well..

I hope you find the part of the game that pleases you Sir, so that you may stop blaming other squads for you not having a good time while playing...


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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2011, 11:35:00 AM »
I just resigned from the Devils Brigade the other day because I want to do my own thing for awhile. Having been a member since it was the Devils Rejects and later the V Brigade, I can tell you that your comments are not even close to being correct.  Hording as you call it occurs on all countries. The Bish and Nits have a history of doing major hordes and rolling bases after base as well. It happens on all sides at one time or another. I can show you the screens shots from just the other day.. Your idea that they attack undefended targets is incorrect as well.. I think that you are using the Devils Brigade as a punching bag to compensate for your own personal issues with the game.. As many other players do as well..

I hope you find the part of the game that pleases you Sir, so that you may stop blaming other squads for you not having a good time while playing...
Never blamed others for being saints, but your (ex) squad really does nothing to contribute to positive aspects of the game, in fact they degenerate it as all mega squads in AH history proves to do time and time again.
Perhaps now being a loner and looking at things from the outside will give you a good perspective on how these guys operate and then come back to see if these arguments are viable in your eyes.
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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2011, 11:41:04 AM »
SWEET, I shall impose my long awaited organization just for the intent of my own fun:

NSSCBSC. {Not So Secret Clubbing Baby Seals Club}

A place to where spies can find a good home and PM me mission details as to where they are coming. Only fair right? If the object in this game is not to avoid combat, then surely me and at most 4 other guys that decide to up to intercept shouldnt be a burden to others fun even if the odds are 20vs4. Bring on the hordes and watch the cries if this were ever to be.

Absolutely!  Make that club and take it as far as you want, it takes all kind to make a Massively Multiplayer Online game.  You are counter-hoarding!  The only thing that will limit people in this game is how the community would view them in doing so, but this doesn't matter to a lot of people.  It takes all kinds!  I personally wouldn't join your club because it's against my personal values to spy, but I don't panic if someone else does.  I might grumble and go "oh great," but hell, have guns, will shoot.

What would this game be without other humans acting like humans?

Never blamed others for being saints, but your (ex) squad really does nothing to contribute to positive aspects of the game, in fact they degenerate it as all mega squads in AH history proves to do time and time again.
Perhaps now being a loner and looking at things from the outside will give you a good perspective on how these guys operate and then come back to see if these arguments are viable in your eyes.

"Positive aspects of the game" is a relative term being used by, in this case, you.

I'm sure sky has different "positive aspects," as well as I and anyone else who plays this game.  No one has authority to say who is or isn't contributing to the game, because everyone is.  Every time a person logs in, the arena is just that much different.
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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2011, 11:44:57 AM »
See rule #4
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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2011, 12:19:00 PM »
Have to say, havent seen you up defending much against a 40+ man mission?

40 man missions? lol oh my god the embellishment. 

Most hordes are a result of coincidence and game flow rather than intent which you heroes seem to ignore.  Dar swings back and forth in quite a volatile manner at times.  I'll take off with a couple squaddies at a front line base when we are at disadvantage or it is a close to even fight and 15 minutes later we are in a green horde and whiners from the other side are calling us horders.  Or some squaddies and I will be defending against numbers for quite some time and things will shift over after a while and then whiners on the other side will call us horders.  Lol, it's so ridiculous I can't believe any of you waste your time crying about something that is just the nature of the game.  At any given time, any pilot can up at any base.  At times it's just a matter of probability which team is going to have more random people take off or logging.  Is this so hard to grasp? Or is it easier to just idealize a horde as a bunch of evil easy moding xbawkers who denegrate gameplay?

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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2011, 12:31:13 PM »
40 man missions? lol oh my god the embellishment. 

Most hordes are a result of coincidence and game flow rather than intent which you heroes seem to ignore.  Dar swings back and forth in quite a volatile manner at times.  I'll take off with a couple squaddies at a front line base when we are at disadvantage or it is a close to even fight and 15 minutes later we are in a green horde and whiners from the other side are calling us horders.  Or some squaddies and I will be defending against numbers for quite some time and things will shift over after a while and then whiners on the other side will call us horders.  Lol, it's so ridiculous I can't believe any of you waste your time crying about something that is just the nature of the game.  At any given time, any pilot can up at any base.  At times it's just a matter of probability which team is going to have more random people take off or logging.  Is this so hard to grasp? Or is it easier to just idealize a horde as a bunch of evil easy moding xbawkers who denegrate gameplay?
Funny I havent seen you in LW offhours combating these guys, but by no means is it an over embellishment. I actualy find it funnier than I do annoying what seems to be common is these guys pack up the horde and go where resistance is least in sections of the map. Coinsidence?? I think not. more like retarded stategery
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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2011, 12:38:01 PM »
Funny I havent seen you in LW offhours combating these guys, but by no means is it an over embellishment. I actualy find it funnier than I do annoying what seems to be common is these guys pack up the horde and go where resistance is least in sections of the map. Coinsidence?? I think not. more like retarded stategery

Hah, I've been fighting the devil's brigades consistently now for 2 years.  Just ask them, they'll tell you how much of a pain in the arse I am.  Sometimes they avoid combat, most of the time they fight it out to accomplish their objective.

You are right though, I haven't hardly played much in the past 2-3 months.  Burntout^10. 

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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2011, 12:50:29 PM »
Hah, I've been fighting the devil's brigades consistently now for 2 years.  Just ask them, they'll tell you how much of a pain in the arse I am.  Sometimes they avoid combat, most of the time they fight it out to accomplish their objective.

You are right though, I haven't hardly played much in the past 2-3 months.  Burntout^10. 

Kinda figured you were headed that way Grizz.  Hope you get the edge back.  burnout is easy to do.

As for the rest of ya.  Shut up and fly, or shut up and don't fly.  It's just not that hard to have fun in this game :)
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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2011, 01:00:51 PM »
Funny I havent seen you in LW offhours combating these guys, but by no means is it an over embellishment. I actualy find it funnier than I do annoying what seems to be common is these guys pack up the horde and go where resistance is least in sections of the map. Coinsidence?? I think not. more like retarded stategery

Strategy (I'm assuming that's what you meant to type, correct me if I'm wrong) is by no means "retarded."
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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2011, 01:11:24 PM »
40 man missions? lol oh my god the embellishment.  

Most hordes are a result of coincidence and game flow rather than intent which you heroes seem to ignore.  Dar swings back and forth in quite a volatile manner at times.  I'll take off with a couple squaddies at a front line base when we are at disadvantage or it is a close to even fight and 15 minutes later we are in a green horde and whiners from the other side are calling us horders.  Or some squaddies and I will be defending against numbers for quite some time and things will shift over after a while and then whiners on the other side will call us horders.  Lol, it's so ridiculous I can't believe any of you waste your time crying about something that is just the nature of the game.  At any given time, any pilot can up at any base.  At times it's just a matter of probability which team is going to have more random people take off or logging.  Is this so hard to grasp? Or is it easier to just idealize a horde as a bunch of evil easy moding xbawkers who denegrate gameplay?




That is a true statement right there! It astonishes me how quickly the "green glob" will show up. I have found that most hording is a result of squads such as the muppets, 80th and the few who have PWNed the enemy all the way back to their field resulting in the "green" hyenas being attracted to the carcasses. I honestly believe there are  many folks who watch the map looking for just this type of fight, and it usually motivates them to switch to "fighter mode" <-- funny stuff right there  :aok



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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2011, 01:29:14 PM »
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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2011, 01:52:42 PM »
40 man missions? lol oh my god the embellishment. 

Most hordes are a result of coincidence and game flow rather than intent which you heroes seem to ignore.  Dar swings back and forth in quite a volatile manner at times.  I'll take off with a couple squaddies at a front line base when we are at disadvantage or it is a close to even fight and 15 minutes later we are in a green horde and whiners from the other side are calling us horders.  Or some squaddies and I will be defending against numbers for quite some time and things will shift over after a while and then whiners on the other side will call us horders.  Lol, it's so ridiculous I can't believe any of you waste your time crying about something that is just the nature of the game.  At any given time, any pilot can up at any base.  At times it's just a matter of probability which team is going to have more random people take off or logging.  Is this so hard to grasp? Or is it easier to just idealize a horde as a bunch of evil easy moding xbawkers who denegrate gameplay?

Well said Grizz, and as usual 100% correct Sir. :salute


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Re: The White Flag and the %50 Thing-
« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2011, 01:58:01 PM »
A few hours ago, there was a horde hitting a rook base from a cv and a nearby airfield with a gv spawn point. It started out as a red vulchfest, but slowly, a defending horde developed and it became a combined arms furball. As I had to go back to work (looooong lunch,) the green guys were pushing to the nearby red airfield. 

It lasted a good hour and a half. I had a great time. Hordes can be fun.

On the topic of the OP, I did not look at the flag once...
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