Firefly

[dirt911]

There is no "but"
The only thing Pyro ever said in that thread "It's APBC". He never made any comment on the gun's performance.

And when he said that what did we learn from it?

That the gun should be more or less lethal?

[waystin2]

Panther needs to be perked less IMO

I finally took the Panther out for a good spin the other day.  It earns it's perk price.  Brutal long range gun with some serious armor.  I think you may see it go up instead of down if I was to predict.

[JOACH1M]

I finally took the Panther out for a good spin the other day.  It earns it's perk price.  Brutal long range gun with some serious armor.  I think you may see it go up instead of down if I was to predict.

It is a smooth bore gun, it's good, frontal armor is good but I think it needs to drop...mYbe thats my lack of skill in a tank

[waystin2]

It is a smooth bore gun, it's good, frontal armor is good but I think it needs to drop...mYbe thats my lack of skill in a tank

I have always been a Firefly fan(3 years or so), but for long range sniping and defensive operations the Panther & Tiger flat out rule.  The Panther does have one factor that sucks and that is the lack of rotation and angle on the top turret machine gun.  Bleck.....

[AWwrgwy]

Remember when the Firefly was 1 and all you saw was fireflys?

There is a method to the ENY madness.

I would lump this in with the veiled "I want a Mustang with 20mm" wish.

You don't want to pay the price. Don't up the gv. Simple as that.


wrongway

[dirt911]

Remember when the Firefly was 1 and all you saw was fireflys?

There is a method to the ENY madness.

I would lump this in with the veiled "I want a Mustang with 20mm" wish.

You don't want to pay the price. Don't up the gv. Simple as that.


wrongway

1?
  It was 7 and thats not all we saw. Saw more panzers than anything else im not asking for it to be 7 again just lower than what it is now like a base price of 10 or so.

[Lusche]

And when he said that what did we learn from it?

That the gun should be more or less lethal?

We just learned: It's firing APBC.

[dirt911]

We just learned: It's firing APBC.

Don't forget that we learned ITS NOT PERFORMING THE WAY IT SHOULD, due to the ammuntion is inccorectly modeled.
Charts and test can prove this, I'll do some tests I don't mind just need to come up with a recruit here somewhere to assist me.

And wtf how did we get way off over here weren't we talking about perk price or gyros on the firefly?

[Lusche]

And wtf how did we get way off over here

You started it by  spreading gross misinformation.

[dirt911]

You started it by  spreading gross misinformation.

Lol I am sorry.

[Blooz]

It is a smooth bore gun, it's good, frontal armor is good but I think it needs to drop...mYbe thats my lack of skill in a tank

The Panther's Rhinemettel Borsig 75L70 Kwk42 gun is a rifled gun. The only smoothbore weapons back then were things that fired fin stabilized ammo like mortars, bazooka and panzerschrek. Smoothbore tank cannon didn't become the norm until the 1970's.

[dirt911]

The Panther's Rhinemettel Borsig 75L70 Kwk42 gun is a rifled gun. The only smoothbore weapons back then were things that fired fin stabilized ammo like mortars, bazooka and panzerschrek. Smoothbore tank cannon didn't become the norm until the 1970's.

I thought all tank guns were rifled barrels?

Wow, was I wrong.