Next American Fighter

[Shifty]

After the USSR Japanese Italian and French planesets are beefed up of course. 

It's not a world beater by any means and would have no place in the LWA. However in the EW SEA and AVA it would be very useful.

The P-36.
General characteristics

Crew: One
Length: 28 ft 6 in (8.7 m)
Wingspan: 37 ft 4 in (11.4 m)
Height: 8 ft 5 in (2.6 m)
Wing area: 235.94 ft² (21.92 m²)
Empty weight: 4,567 lb[14] (2,076 kg)
Loaded weight: 5,650 lb (2,560 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 6,010 lb[14] (2,732 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Pratt & Whitney R-1830-17 Twin Wasp air-cooled radial piston engine, 1,050 hp (783 kW)
Performance

Maximum speed: 313 mph (272 knots, 500 km/h) at 8,500 ft, 2,960 m
Cruise speed: 270 mph (235 knots, 432 km/h)
Range: 625 mi (543 nmi, 1,006 km) at 270 mph (419 km/h), 860 mi (748 nmi, 1,385 km) at 200 mph
Service ceiling: 32,700 ft (9,967 m)
Rate of climb: 3,400 ft/min (17 m/s)
Wing loading: 23.9 lb/ft² (116.8 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.186 hp/lb (306w/kg)
Armament


1 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) M1919 Browning machine gun
1 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine gun


Used by various Air Forces early in the war both Axis and Allied.

[BnZs]

It's certainly not fast, but its power loading is .18, the same as the P-51, and the 3,400fpm climb figure seems to bear this at. IOW, it has a great climb for an EW aircraft. And this with a wing-loading of 23 lbs/foot. I can see this actually being flown for the performance.

After the USSR Japanese Italian and French planesets are beefed up of course. 

It's not a world beater by any means and would have no place in the LWA. However in the EW SEA and AVA it would be very useful.

The P-36.
General characteristics

Crew: One
Length: 28 ft 6 in (8.7 m)
Wingspan: 37 ft 4 in (11.4 m)
Height: 8 ft 5 in (2.6 m)
Wing area: 235.94 ft² (21.92 m²)
Empty weight: 4,567 lb[14] (2,076 kg)
Loaded weight: 5,650 lb (2,560 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 6,010 lb[14] (2,732 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Pratt & Whitney R-1830-17 Twin Wasp air-cooled radial piston engine, 1,050 hp (783 kW)
Performance

Maximum speed: 313 mph (272 knots, 500 km/h) at 8,500 ft, 2,960 m
Cruise speed: 270 mph (235 knots, 432 km/h)
Range: 625 mi (543 nmi, 1,006 km) at 270 mph (419 km/h), 860 mi (748 nmi, 1,385 km) at 200 mph
Service ceiling: 32,700 ft (9,967 m)
Rate of climb: 3,400 ft/min (17 m/s)
Wing loading: 23.9 lb/ft² (116.8 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.186 hp/lb (306w/kg)
Armament


1 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) M1919 Browning machine gun
1 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine gun


Used by various Air Forces early in the war both Axis and Allied.

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[JOACH1M]

After the USSR Japanese Italian and French planesets are beefed up of course. 

It's not a world beater by any means and would have no place in the LWA. However in the EW SEA and AVA it would be very useful.

The P-36.
General characteristics

Crew: One
Length: 28 ft 6 in (8.7 m)
Wingspan: 37 ft 4 in (11.4 m)
Height: 8 ft 5 in (2.6 m)
Wing area: 235.94 ft² (21.92 m²)
Empty weight: 4,567 lb[14] (2,076 kg)
Loaded weight: 5,650 lb (2,560 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 6,010 lb[14] (2,732 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Pratt & Whitney R-1830-17 Twin Wasp air-cooled radial piston engine, 1,050 hp (783 kW)
Performance

Maximum speed: 313 mph (272 knots, 500 km/h) at 8,500 ft, 2,960 m
Cruise speed: 270 mph (235 knots, 432 km/h)
Range: 625 mi (543 nmi, 1,006 km) at 270 mph (419 km/h), 860 mi (748 nmi, 1,385 km) at 200 mph
Service ceiling: 32,700 ft (9,967 m)
Rate of climb: 3,400 ft/min (17 m/s)
Wing loading: 23.9 lb/ft² (116.8 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.186 hp/lb (306w/kg)
Armament


1 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) M1919 Browning machine gun
1 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine gun


Used by various Air Forces early in the war both Axis and Allied.

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I'd fly it

[ACE]

Kinda looks like a jug

[EskimoJoe]

Kinda looks like a jug

A-cup 

[JOACH1M]

A-cup 

But would it. Be 34 acup of 36acup

[oakranger]

I like the way you are thinking, Shifty!   Diversity on plan sets.

[M0nkey_Man]

i would fly it, would probably have to ram someone to kill em though

[Karnak]

It would be good for scenarios, but if that is the next American fighter you'll have some seriously bummed P-61 fans.

How much structure does it share with the P-40?

[Guppy35]

Great minds think alike Shifty   You must be getting a bit slower in your old age though.  I brought up the "Mohawk" a few days ago in my updated wishlist thread for all the same reasons

[B4Buster]

Those aircraft seem to have two different nose designs eh?

[Wmaker]

I really hope we'll get it when the P-40 gets remodelled! I wouldn't even really call it American in the context of AH/WWII. It was obviously American made but it saw almost all of its action in the foreign air forces. I think it should have French default skin and be listed under French in the aircraft listing.

It is my #1 favourite for several reasons!

It's certainly not fast, but its power loading is .18, the same as the P-51, and the 3,400fpm climb figure seems to bear this at. IOW, it has a great climb for an EW aircraft. And this with a wing-loading of 23 lbs/foot. I can see this actually being flown for the performance.

Normal take-off weight with full fuel and ammo for Hawk75A would be ~3000kg and the export versions had a Twin Wasp version that produced 1065hp (only 15hp difference to the P-36). So that would put it to the 0.16 region. 3400ft/min is way too optimistic figure to be initial climb rate with full take off weight.

It is true though that P-36 had less guns/ammo than the French export models, so it certainly would be lighter. But I think it's clear that if we'd get one we'd get it as a Hawk75 which the French fought their Battle of France with. P-36 only saw action in the Pearl Harbour attack with the US.

[Wmaker]

Those aircraft seem to have two different nose designs eh?

The larger diameter cowling indicates that the variant in question is powered with Wright's Cyclone 9 and the ones with the smaller cowlings are powered with P&W's Twin Wasps.

[Wmaker]

How much structure does it share with the P-40?

Except for few minor differencies (tail fairing, aft canopy glazing, landing gear doors etc.), the basic airframe is very closely an early P-40 model from firewall to the rudder.

[Guppy35]

<puts check in mail to Wmaker>

Came across and intersting photo of an RAF Mohawk with 11 kills painted on, German, Italian and Japanese.  Still amazes me the RAF had it frontline in Burma into January 44.