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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2011, 07:26:19 PM »
I'm sorry bout that guys, It looks like the P47 undoubtedly, I have read a website on the complete history of the P47 and looking so much like it I assumed that it was the earliest model that was described in detail on the website.

My mistake  :salute

When i first saw the P-36, i thought it was a P-47. 
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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2011, 11:28:12 PM »
When i first saw the P-36, i thought it was a P-47. 

Too much generalization. Both have radial engines, therefore.....

On the other hand, P-47s were mistaken for Fw190s, P-51s for Bf109s.

The thing that's made me the saddest on here is people thinking the Russian Tu-95 Bear:


was somehow related to the B-29:




I can only assume because both have four engines and are silver.

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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2011, 11:51:22 PM »
Findings which we pointing out to you pertained only to the Ki-43-I.

You subsequently ignored us, stating we were wrong despite having no evidence to support your position.

Not so. The links I provided and the findings discussed included Ki-43s all the way til the end. From the beginning of service til the end, the armament didn't change. That was why it was such an interesting find -- it debunked a few wrong theories about that plane.

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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2011, 12:09:36 AM »
Darn very sorry Dan... Yes I am getting older, probably why I missed your post.  :old:

Ack Ack I guess I'm not getting any smarter either.  :D

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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2011, 12:26:41 AM »
Not so. The links I provided and the findings discussed included Ki-43s all the way til the end. From the beginning of service til the end, the armament didn't change. That was why it was such an interesting find -- it debunked a few wrong theories about that plane.
No they didn't. They were exclusive to the Ki-43-I, which was pointed out to you.  You initially backtracked based on that, saying you hadn't noticed that in the article.  Then, for reasons unknown, you declared that the article applied to all Ki-43s despite the complete lack of evidence supporting that position.
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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2011, 03:51:21 AM »
Not so. The links I provided and the findings discussed included Ki-43s all the way til the end. From the beginning of service til the end, the armament didn't change. That was why it was such an interesting find -- it debunked a few wrong theories about that plane.

<sigh> :rolleyes:

The article you linked was about Ki-43-Is and Ki-43-Is alone, not about II or III-variants. Next time you read an article, try to read the title aswell.

Here's the article: http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/rdunn/nakajima_ki43arm.htm. It says in the title: Nakajima Ki-43-I Armament -- A Reassessment - A RESEARCH STUDY.


Now, can we get back to the topic of this thread?
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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2011, 04:45:03 AM »


Noir: Nope, the P-36 initially started with 1x30cal and 1x50cal in the nose...

Later models of the Hawk had, depending on the version, 30cals in the wings or 7mm in the wings and the nose guns were both .50cal.

P-36 had the lighter armament.

The Curtiss Hawk model 75 as known in french service had 4 or 6 7.5mm machine according to a not so good website.



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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2011, 05:03:53 AM »
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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2011, 12:36:18 PM »
Karnak, Wmaker: whoops you're both right. Sorry 'bout that, memory was a bit fuzzy as I hadn't revisited that in a while. My erronous comment was with regards to thinking back now, at the time of this recent reply.

you're right, let's keep it on track.

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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2011, 02:53:58 PM »
those things look more like long brewsters than they do jugs...





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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2011, 04:25:56 PM »
i do like the looks of it, if those count for anything

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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2011, 04:32:03 PM »
Too much generalization. Both have radial engines, therefore.....

On the other hand, P-47s were mistaken for Fw190s, P-51s for Bf109s.

The thing that's made me the saddest on here is people thinking the Russian Tu-95 Bear:
(Image removed from quote.)

was somehow related to the B-29:

(Image removed from quote.)


I can only assume because both have four engines and are silver.

 :headscratch:


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I think there's also some confusion with the Tu-4 which was literally a carbon copy of the B-29.
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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2011, 07:28:59 PM »
They look like radial engined P-40s to me. Below is a P-36 and P-40 with the engines removed from the image... Which is which?


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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2011, 07:54:41 PM »
They look like radial engined P-40s to me. Below is a P-36 and P-40 with the engines removed from the image... Which is which?

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wow, that's interesting.

personally i think radial-engine aircraft look stunning. and, they were reliable (for the most part)
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Re: Next American Fighter
« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2011, 07:58:24 PM »
bottom one is p-36...  :neener:
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