Are you a "timid" flyer?

[Getback]

Seems to be the latest lingo for not flying the way some wants you to.

[coombz]

I am learning to be a bit more conservative to reduce time spent re-upping and flying back to the fights ;>

But generally I like to get stuck into the thick of it, best way to learn, and makes it more likely I'll be of some use, even if it's just as a distraction.

[oTRALFZo]

Seems to be the latest lingo for not flying the way some wants you to.

Most just smacktalk to get that guy to come down and engage. Only way you are going to fly the way I want you too is to keep still at 200 off my nose and turn off the collision modeling  

[Yeager]

I had to check to make sure this wasn't some old re-post from the late 90s.....

[Dadsguns]

Learn to "fish yer six", sometimes you have to give up something to get them to bite, they soon realize that you bite back..... 

[Banshee7]

It's varies with my mood.  If I'm in a good mood and already having fun, I will go through and engage every icon in range.  If I log on in a bad mood, my main goal is to stay alive (no matter how many kills I get...0...1....8) so I don't die and make my mood worse 

[Anaxogoras]

99% of the time "timid" means someone in a slow, maneuverable aircraft is mad that someone in a fast, not-so-maneuverable aircraft won't slow down and turnfight him.

If you can't stand it when you can't force a fight, then fly one of the fast, not-so-maneuverable aircraft.  No one ever turns down a 1vs1 against a 190D-9 or P-47N.

[Solar10]

If you can't stand it when you can't force a fight, then fly one of the fast, not-so-maneuverable aircraft....or P-47N.

Hmmm...  That would be a mistake.  It is fast... AND very maneuverable.

[Lusche]

Am I?

Yes.

[katanaso]

The timidness I've seen called out is when a person in a maneuverable aircraft is afraid to engage and get a litle dirty.

An example:  I'm in a 38, and a higher 38 comes and starts to dive on me.  I try to equalize E states, but still know that he has more speed built up.  I'll break down and left at some point when he's almost in gun range, hoping to induce an overshoot.  He doesn't bite, but instead of doing something like a high yo-yo and staying within 1.2k to 1.5k off of me, he zooms up to 3k and the process repeats itself, basically resetting the situation, often allowing me to gain altitude in the process.

Then, after the altitude advantage is nearly negated, the enemy 38 flies away from the fight, but reverses each time I try to break off and go elsewhere.

[Yeager]

The timidness I've seen called out is when a person in a maneuverable aircraft is afraid to engage and get a litle dirty.

An example:  I'm in a 38, and a higher 38 comes and starts to dive on me.  I try to equalize E states, but still know that he has more speed built up.  I'll break down and left at some point when he's almost in gun range, hoping to induce an overshoot.  He doesn't bite, but instead of doing something like a high yo-yo and staying within 1.2k to 1.5k off of me, he zooms up to 3k and the process repeats itself, basically resetting the situation, often allowing me to gain altitude in the process.

Then, after the altitude advantage is nearly negated, the enemy 38 flies away from the fight, but reverses each time I try to break off and go elsewhere.

Bingo.  Exactly why I posted the Sick Puppies in MidWar thread.  MW is typcially not like this, not the extreme the SPs brought to us at least.  Back to LW they must go!

[JOACH1M]

Only when I have a 262 even then I'm not that timid, I already lost 7 this tour I think.

[Soulyss]

I believe that "timid" is oftentimes the newer players interpretations of BnZ or "E" fighting.  You're a new player so you hop into a P-51 because at least on this side of the pond it's probably the most recognized plane from WW2, and it was the fighter that won the war after all right?

So you charge off into the skies and promptly get beat down when you run into spits, la's, N1K's, etc. So you look around and say "what's happening?" the most common answer you're going to get is "stay fast" or "don't get into a low speed turning fight".  So with your limited experience and understanding of the finer points of ACM and the flight modeling you apply that bit of advice in the only way you can figure out.  You go for targets of opportunity, you don't let your speed drop below 400mph and you take advantage of the 51's high speed and long range.  Because it's the only way you know how to get a kill w/out being a an easy target for everyone in the arena and killing is a lot more fun than dying in here.

In many ways timid flyers are created from within the community.  Hopefully they'll move past it and continue to develop their skill set because the problem with timid flying is it in many ways denies the player a chance to actually engage in an extended fight and learn from it.

At least that was my personal experience.

[lyric1]

Bingo.  Exactly why I posted the Sick Puppies in MidWar thread.  MW is typcially not like this, not the extreme the SPs brought to us at least.  Back to LW they must go!

What is your in game name again?

[Ack-Ack]

Bingo.  Exactly why I posted the Sick Puppies in MidWar thread.  MW is typcially not like this, not the extreme the SPs brought to us at least.  Back to LW they must go!

Oh please, that's exactly the way you used to fly in the MW arena when I used to fly in there.  Call kettle black much?

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