Gas Prices

[CAP1]

something you missed on lithium batteries.......when you "fast" charge them, you shorten their lifespan.

[Mano]

I knew when I clicked on the POST button I forgot something. Thanks Cap1.   

 
Mano

[CAP1]

I knew when I clicked on the POST button I forgot something. Thanks Cap1.   

 
Mano

no problem. i wasn't trying to be a wise ass....your post was actually very good to read. 

[Mano]

I know you weren't. You have a good sense of humor......from the other post I have read.

 
Mano

[CAP1]

I know you weren't. You have a good sense of humor......from the other post I have read.

 
Mano

hhmm......sounds like a fellow warped person. 

warped sense of humor? definitely. good? some say so, others say not.......

[Dichotomy]

only the dumb ones

[MarineUS]

I remember pulling into a gas station last summer and seeing them changing the price on the signs. I stupidly asked, "Did you get a new delivery?" The gas station owner had the balls to tell me, "No, I was told to raise the price because everyone else is. I don't get a delivery until next week."

Sadly, I don't even blame the gas stations, they are just the end of a very corrupt chain.

There is a man in my home town that runs a BP station and manages deliveries to all of the gas stations in town, and he cuts off their supply if they sell cheaper than him....but no one seems to care....

It's OK though, a bigger chain just established a gas station in town - let's see how this goes.

[Babalonian]

I've watched our towns Fuel prices rise by 53 cents in the last two weeks, which in turn drives the prices of everything that relies on transportation of there products, produce has really risen to outrageous levels, man i wish our wages would 

And people wonder why I think unions these days are worthless.  Haven't joined one since and will avoid doing so since the last and only one I was a member of acted like they were holier to us members than the pope for "bargaining" with our employers to get paid $0.05 above the newly raised minimum wage at the time when we were already getting paid $0.05 cents above the previous minimum wage.  Thanks for bargaining for absolutely nothing that the state electorate didn't already fight for and take to the ballots and then sending out a memo taking all the credit and acting like you guys were walking on water and had finaly won something for us members in the last two decades.

[Tac]

so lets see.

there was the arab oil embargo in 73, 74 i think.

 then in 78 they said there was an oil shortage. i started driving in 79. i remember sitting in lines a couple blocks long to get to the gas pumps. apparently there wasn't much of a shortage, seeing as we still have plenty. or could it be that oil is not a limited resource?

There was an oil shortage.. it was in the US when it hit peak oil...not in the arab nations (those are slated to hit peak oil within 50yrs or so if not sooner).

[Meatwad]

Here is something I dont understand. For some vehicles you can get a chip that gives you around an extra 10 MPG plus a little extra horsepower (it has been proven it works). How come this technology isnt used in vehicles in a daily basis?

Im willing to bet the car and oil companies are all chummie to not include them to keep oil demand high and fuel prices up

[007Rusty]

Last night it was $3.07 today $3.19 wtf     

[CAP1]

Here is something I dont understand. For some vehicles you can get a chip that gives you around an extra 10 MPG plus a little extra horsepower (it has been proven it works). How come this technology isnt used in vehicles in a daily basis?

Im willing to bet the car and oil companies are all chummie to not include them to keep oil demand high and fuel prices up

this one's pretty easy to answer(although mr kgb will be along to tell me i'm wrong  )

 use a ford focus for example. this car is mass produced. it has to meet emissions standards in every state, plus it has to run good at higher altitude places as well as sea level places. it has to run good in cold weather, and hot weather, on many different qualities of gasoline.
 to do this effectively, and affordably, they use a program that makes compromises in order to achieve this.

 there were ford racers back in the 80's and 90's cracking the code on fords EEC4 control systems, and gaining upwards of 50hp by simply changing the fuel and timing curves.

 so now, imagine if you could write a program for your computer changing the injector timing, the injector "on" time, the ignition timing(EEC5 and most obd2 systems can actually control ignition timing individually per cylinder), and so on.

[Meatwad]

For diesel engines they work wonders especially on a dually and road tractors. Back in the 70's when fuel efficiency was a big thing and the technology even then was capable for better milage vehicles. Seems to me they would press the issue even more with the newer technology and keep prices down on vehicles.

To me we dont need sensors and every little trinket under the hood and in the interiors just to make a car look pretty. Hell you cant even work on the new ones anymore without it being a pain in the bellybutton just for simple jobs

[CAP1]

For diesel engines they work wonders especially on a dually and road tractors. Back in the 70's when fuel efficiency was a big thing and the technology even then was capable for better milage vehicles. Seems to me they would press the issue even more with the newer technology and keep prices down on vehicles.

To me we dont need sensors and every little trinket under the hood and in the interiors just to make a car look pretty. Hell you cant even work on the new ones anymore without it being a pain in the bellybutton just for simple jobs

true, you can't........

 the majority of sensors you find installed under the hood, are sensors that really are necessary to allow the ECM to properly control the engine.

 interior sensors generally are more for safety. an exception may be on drive by wire throttles. generally you'll find 2 accelerator pedal position sensors, and 2 throttle position sensors. they all need to "jive".

 as we move to more electrics in cars(such as electric braking, and electric steering assist)there will be more and more need for these sensors.

 cars were never really any kind of effecient in the 70's. the manufacturers were only still learning about pollution controls, and how to control them properly.

[vorticon]

$1.10 a liter this morning...

thats $4.15 a gallon.