Red Tails- Movie

[Guppy35]

He had a heart.... it was just made outa the same cold steel as his tanks, and issued to him by the Army.

Problem was the crews of said tanks were flesh and blood and that cold steel wasn't very thick.

[Saxman]

Looks like they're not pre-screening for critics. Several other movies opening on the 20th have reviews up on RottenTomatoes, but nothing yet about Red Tails.

Edit:

Interesting article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/magazine/george-lucas-red-tails.html?pagewanted=all

[Guppy35]

Saw some pictures elsewhere.  Someone must have gotten to them about the 8th AF tail markings as some new images show a more generic 15th AF tail marking on the 17s.  Either way it will have big planes on the screen. That can't be a bad thing

[Guppy35]

Looks like they're not pre-screening for critics. Several other movies opening on the 20th have reviews up on RottenTomatoes, but nothing yet about Red Tails.

Edit:

Interesting article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/magazine/george-lucas-red-tails.html?pagewanted=all

I like this quote

For a model, Lucas studied flag-waving World War II films like Nicholas Ray’s “Flying Leathernecks,” which starred John Wayne. “We made movies like this during the war, and everybody just loved them,” he said. “I said, ‘There’s no reason why that idealism, that kind of naïveté, can’t still exist.’ ”

[Saxman]

Yep.

I think Lucas is a bit overly defensive on the whole studio executive cuts thing. Yes, sometimes executives can destroy a film by mandating changes (take a look at Kingdom of Heaven. Ridley Scott's director's cut was by FAR superior to the theatrical release, restoring several MAJOR subplots and even details of the main plot). However sometimes a filmmaker NEEDS to be put on a leash, and those changes and cuts end up for the better. Part of the reason the original Star Wars films (and especially Empire) are so much more highly regarded than the prequels was because Lucas did NOT have free reign to do things exactly as he pleased.

[Shuffler]

Looks like they're not pre-screening for critics. Several other movies opening on the 20th have reviews up on RottenTomatoes, but nothing yet about Red Tails.

Edit:

Interesting article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/magazine/george-lucas-red-tails.html?pagewanted=all

I read about 1/4 of it..... seemed blah blah blah.

[Vinkman]

Yep.

I think Lucas is a bit overly defensive on the whole studio executive cuts thing. Yes, sometimes executives can destroy a film by mandating changes (take a look at Kingdom of Heaven. Ridley Scott's director's cut was by FAR superior to the theatrical release, restoring several MAJOR subplots and even details of the main plot). However sometimes a filmmaker NEEDS to be put on a leash, and those changes and cuts end up for the better. Part of the reason the original Star Wars films (and especially Empire) are so much more highly regarded than the prequels was because Lucas did NOT have free reign to do things exactly as he pleased.

I thought the Pre-quels were better movies with the exception of the two people who played Anakin Skywalker. The young kid (Jake Lloyd) was too goody-goody, and nausiatingly virtuous and humble to sow the seeds that he would grow up to be Darth Vader. Hayden Christensen who played grown up Anakin was such a bad actor he couldn't portay the Charming cockiness required to be a love interest for Queen Amadala, nor the the imature, insecure, self-obsessed, narcisist that could be seduced by the dark side. Two better actors could have made them great movies. Oh and subtract Jar-Jar Binks, how ruined every scene he was in.

[321BAR]

strangely the two of em strafing the destroyer is true...


at least  they got one of their many stories right

[GNucks]

Just bought tickets for me and my 15 year old brother. We'll see it on Friday in between when he gets out of school and I fly in FSO!

That little booger better remember his school ID 

[Delirium]

I bought my tickets for the 11:45am showing already, I'm hoping the movie turns out well.

Regardless, after working a 14 day stretch, going to the movies alone without the wife or the kids is just the break I need.   

[DREDIOCK]

Patton's an overrated prima-donna who only got such success out of his troops because he drove them nearly to death and didn't give two s***s about casualties as long as they were moving forward. He's the US Army's Twentieth Century version of Custer, only this time with the numbers and equipment to back his monstrous ego instead of just a Regiment against a whole alliance.

Not to mention he was a bigoted ass.

You obviously have spent no amount of serious time studying the man.
Yes he drove his men. But he cared a great deal about casualties very much. Which is why he drove his men so hard,

As for his bigotry. It was no better or worse then was the common attitude of the time.

[CptTrips]

I just hope he doesn't flub it too bad.

[Butcher]

You obviously have spent no amount of serious time studying the man.
Yes he drove his men. But he cared a great deal about casualties very much. Which is why he drove his men so hard,

As for his bigotry. It was no better or worse then was the common attitude of the time.

Agreed, same argument goes towards Rommel - he drove his men to the same standards as he drove himself, he ate the same rations as his men.

Unless you read a few books on both men (not wikipedia..) its a long discussion.

/only love-hate I have is for MacArthur

[Rich52]

Agreed, same argument goes towards Rommel - he drove his men to the same standards as he drove himself, he ate the same rations as his men.

Unless you read a few books on both men (not wikipedia..) its a long discussion.

/only love-hate I have is for MacArthur

Both Rommel and Patton believed the best way to limit casualties was in victory. Hopefully quick victory. All three Generals mentioned here had as their greatst sin "pride". They were made into the Rock Stars of their day, even bigger. Patton, Rommel, and MacArthur all proved themselves in combat during The Great War. If I remember right all three were injured during it as well. These were not "paper Generals" Like Ike.

Of the three the easiest to hate is probably MacArthur. His ego knew no bounds. On one hand he abandoned his troops in the Phillipines. On the other hand his strategy saved countless allied lives by bypassing strategically meaningless Jap garrisons, on strategically meaningless Islands, and just leaving them to starve as he gained back the south pacific. He gave Hirohito and the Royal family a pass on war crimes yet quickly turned Japan into a functioning Democracy and a bastion against communism in Asia. Of the three he was probably the greatest pure Intellectual. He had great Political skills yet he secretly despised Politicians.

[Saxman]

Of the three the easiest to hate is probably MacArthur. His ego knew no bounds. On one hand he abandoned his troops in the Phillipines. On the other hand his strategy saved countless allied lives by bypassing strategically meaningless Jap garrisons, on strategically meaningless Islands, and just leaving them to starve as he gained back the south pacific. He gave Hirohito and the Royal family a pass on war crimes yet quickly turned Japan into a functioning Democracy and a bastion against communism in Asia. Of the three he was probably the greatest pure Intellectual. He had great Political skills yet he secretly despised Politicians.

IIRC, MacArthur didn't "abandon" anything. He was pretty much dragged kicking and screaming out of there by direct order.