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« Reply #480 on: January 22, 2012, 01:19:06 AM »
And he would do things in a plane that he does in the game? Don't think so. Pull an immelman because the invisible enemy plane was going to get you on that little jaunt? No. maybe take it for a vert tailslide? Probably not. That was a movie and a war is also kind of different maybe.

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« Reply #481 on: January 22, 2012, 03:04:49 AM »
And he would do things in a plane that he does in the game? Don't think so. Pull an immelman because the invisible enemy plane was going to get you on that little jaunt? No. maybe take it for a vert tailslide? Probably not. That was a movie and a war is also kind of different maybe.

I don't want to sound like an @$s hole, but you seem to have absolutely no idea what your talking about. Aces High simulates flight physics a lot better than most other computer programs with the word "simulator" in it's name, also AH simulated flight physics better then some of the level 6 and 7 simulators (that are FAA certified).
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« Reply #482 on: January 22, 2012, 03:46:04 AM »
And he would do things in a plane that he does in the game? Don't think so. Pull an immelman because the invisible enemy plane was going to get you on that little jaunt? No. maybe take it for a vert tailslide? Probably not. That was a movie and a war is also kind of different maybe.





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« Reply #483 on: January 22, 2012, 03:54:45 AM »
Finally seen the movie. I say it's pretty good. I wont take the points off for adding all the hollywood BS as they did want people who don't know anything about flying to enjoy it.

I do have one big comment for the movie; it is extremely predictable. Very predictable maneuvers, events, characters, ect...
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« Reply #484 on: January 22, 2012, 04:27:45 AM »
When his hands aren't busy, he keeps his wrist cocked at the same angle as his foot!  :devil
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« Reply #485 on: January 22, 2012, 05:44:47 AM »
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« Reply #486 on: January 22, 2012, 07:10:22 AM »
Besides the last 10-15 minutes... I thought the movie was boring.

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« Reply #487 on: January 22, 2012, 07:58:34 AM »
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« Reply #488 on: January 22, 2012, 12:13:10 PM »
I don't want to sound like an @$s hole, but you seem to have absolutely no idea what your talking about. Aces High simulates flight physics a lot better than most other computer programs with the word "simulator" in it's name, also AH simulated flight physics better then some of the level 6 and 7 simulators (that are FAA certified).


The only thing that simulators do, is give a familiarity to flight... but because you will always lack to physical characteristics of flight, you can never consider yourself an "expert" in any sense. So to mock a movie because the ACM are not correct is laughable at best... unless you actually flew the damn WWII planes, you need to keep your mouth shut.


As for the bold statement... I really doubt that... I would love to believe you, but please post a video with comparisons or statements from actual pilots... oh wait, I am a pilot... I will tell you that it is not true...
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« Reply #489 on: January 22, 2012, 05:34:40 PM »
Besides the last 10-15 minutes... I thought the movie was boring.

I agree, it was a rather slow movie. The mrs. and I went to see it last night. It was ok, nothing special.

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« Reply #490 on: January 22, 2012, 06:00:52 PM »

The only thing that simulators do, is give a familiarity to flight... but because you will always lack to physical characteristics of flight, you can never consider yourself an "expert" in any sense. So to mock a movie because the ACM are not correct is laughable at best... unless you actually flew the damn WWII planes, you need to keep your mouth shut.


As for the bold statement... I really doubt that... I would love to believe you, but please post a video with comparisons or statements from actual pilots... oh wait, I am a pilot... I will tell you that it is not true...

Okay...in that case could you explain us what is wrong with AH's physics characteristics?
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« Reply #491 on: January 22, 2012, 06:04:43 PM »
@ INK get a haircut you Hippie  :cheers: jk

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« Reply #492 on: January 22, 2012, 06:15:58 PM »


Probably the greatest and only real killjoy - and I'm sure Lucas will shortly be getting a long, detailed, and in-depth letter from gramps (Bustr) and others in our community about it - is someone mixed up the ballistics and lethality of the Mk108 30mm with the Browning .30cal... really bad.  And that's just a shame, would of really underlined the lethality and fear instilled upon the 262 in allied buff crews, and upped the climatic victory factor if the viewer thought each 262 that the Tuskegee were portrayed shooting down was actually as capable and a lethal weapon against the buffs as they were.


I liked the movie...give it a 7/10, it did the job and was entertaining...not a great movie but I would watch again.  With that said, ^^^that part really bothered me....someone gets hit with 30mm and they're not gonna live to fly for 5 mins longer. 

I think my major gripe with the movie, is that you never really felt like the pilots were in danger.  Yeah some planes would come in shooting...and some parts would get ripped up...but the execution kind of downplayed this.  "Oh Captain...I'm hit....damn I'm bleeding....oh there's fuel leaking too....I'm ok though"  :bhead

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« Reply #493 on: January 22, 2012, 06:22:01 PM »
Please, this is a game, not even a sim of the same kind of controls you see in a real plane. Maybe 5 tops including stick, rudder, throttle, and oh views if you use track ir and a keyboard to adjust rpm and maybe, MAYBE trims. You think you could take a real plane and do the same stuff you can in this game? HAHAHA wow. Really think about it gamer. This game doesn't make you a pilot by any stretch of the imagination. It's a game man, come on back down to earth now.  :O

If you hung it up for someone to take you in a WAR you are finished for good. In here you up a new plane. Think about it you don't need expertise to see that one. lol
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« Reply #494 on: January 22, 2012, 06:37:14 PM »
Finally seen the movie. I say it's pretty good. I wont take the points off for adding all the hollywood BS as they did want people who don't know anything about flying to enjoy it.

I do have one big comment for the movie; it is extremely predictable. Very predictable maneuvers, events, characters, ect...

Unfortunately...that is an inherent problem with movies based on historical events.  Just like Titanic....extremely predictable...Tora Tora Tora!  Extremely predictable...MIDWAY!  Extremely predictable.   Memphis Belle.  Extremely predictable.  etc.  etc.   

The only thing they can do with a movie of this type is flesh out some "character" in the characters.  Give the viewer a "sense" of what it was like.  When the facts are "known" the only thing left to carry it...are the characters involved.   


I have not see the movie yet...but I am planning on going to see it.... I hope the character development is good because I already KNOW the story and the history.