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Offline MachFly

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Re: Red Tails- Movie
« Reply #495 on: January 22, 2012, 06:43:52 PM »
Unfortunately...that is an inherent problem with movies based on historical events.  Just like Titanic....extremely predictable...Tora Tora Tora!  Extremely predictable...MIDWAY!  Extremely predictable.   Memphis Belle.  Extremely predictable.  etc.  etc.   

The only thing they can do with a movie of this type is flesh out some "character" in the characters.  Give the viewer a "sense" of what it was like.  When the facts are "known" the only thing left to carry it...are the characters involved.   


I have not see the movie yet...but I am planning on going to see it.... I hope the character development is good because I already KNOW the story and the history.

I'm not referring to the story line. While your watching the movie and see two airplane fight, your thinking "I bet this is going to do this maneuver right now" and he did, same thing with which character survives and doesn't survive.
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Re: Red Tails- Movie
« Reply #496 on: January 22, 2012, 06:55:32 PM »
Are you a fighter pilot?

I think he is of the good graphics = good flight model brigade  :D

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« Reply #497 on: January 22, 2012, 07:19:34 PM »
I'm the guy saying playing a game does not make you a fighter pilot. Really think about how you sound arguing against that. Good graphics don't make a good flight model by the way. We have a good flight model. No need to be a ---- edited to play nice  :D
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« Reply #498 on: January 22, 2012, 07:24:19 PM »
I saw it and liked it. Only complaint was the 30mms looked like .22s.
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« Reply #499 on: January 22, 2012, 07:26:37 PM »
I'm not referring to the story line. While your watching the movie and see two airplane fight, your thinking "I bet this is going to do this maneuver right now" and he did, same thing with which character survives and doesn't survive.

Was he wearing a "Red Shirt" when he died.  LOL.   


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« Reply #500 on: January 22, 2012, 07:26:56 PM »
I saw it and liked it. Only complaint was the 30mms looked like .22s.


i thought 30's would be like using HEIT rounds on a bomber after seing some footage and pictures in the books I have.
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« Reply #501 on: January 22, 2012, 07:46:34 PM »
I'm the guy saying playing a game does not make you a fighter pilot.

I agree with you there. However we do have a couple of real fighter pilots that play this game.
Puma and Eagle are two of them.

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« Reply #502 on: January 22, 2012, 08:03:51 PM »
I'm the guy saying playing a game does not make you a fighter pilot. Really think about how you sound arguing against that. Good graphics don't make a good flight model by the way. We have a good flight model. No need to be a ---- edited to play nice  :D

How so? you do complain about this on a pretty regular basis and for a long time. I remember reading once that you thought the P51 was modelled incorrectly because you saw a TV program and drew your own conclusions, why do you think HTC has got this wrong? What do you think HTC has got wrong that you constantly bleat on about his being a game rather than a sim?

You understand that if you keep on expressing these opinions without an explantion as to why people are going to have to ask you why you think that is the case and your going to have to back it up.

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« Reply #503 on: January 22, 2012, 08:07:44 PM »
 
I agree with you there. However we do have a couple of real fighter pilots that play this game.
Puma and Eagle are two of them.

Right on, but this game doesn't have all the controls even modeled for this to be a simulator. This game hasn't made anyone a fighter pilot. I'm pretty sure they didn't come here for training hahahaha. They also probably fly much faster planes than what was in that movie or in here hehehe.

 Movie was great except Cuba looked like he was trying to pretend he was DeNiro in men of honor with the pipe  :bolt:

No one said the flight model in here was too poor or the current physics were either. There are controls to prop planes like the f4u and others for cooling, engine management, and other things that we don't have modeled that strike it from being a complete sim. A sim to me would be the planes modeled exactly like the real thing was. Things like the gyro stabilized gunsights on the p 51's, but alot of people here say it would make the game unbalanced by putting that in. Hence, just a game in the end.
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« Reply #504 on: January 22, 2012, 08:21:18 PM »
Things like the gyro stabilized gunsights on the p 51's, but alot of people here say it would make the game unbalanced by putting that in. Hence, just a game in the end.

So define a simulator? Were do we stop here? is it something you play until you die for the first time then your never allowed to play again because your dead? Do you want the commands all mappable to a control panel? So you can flick a switch to feel more real?

I would class Aces High as a combat sim why do you think its a game?

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« Reply #505 on: January 22, 2012, 08:31:11 PM »
  They also probably fly much faster planes than what was in that movie or in here hehehe.

I'm not so sure Puma looks like he wore brown boots and flew spads.
Covered for ya Puma.  ;)

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« Reply #506 on: January 22, 2012, 09:09:21 PM »
Now you've done it, Shifty!   :lol   My secret about flying with knee length cavalry boots is out.   :O.    .... and just when I got 'em broke in real good.  And don't you be talking bad about my Spad.   :furious.         :salute
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« Reply #507 on: January 22, 2012, 09:14:25 PM »
Are you a fighter pilot?

....and the answer is?



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« Reply #508 on: January 22, 2012, 09:23:50 PM »
Okay, well how would you say the ACM in Red Tails compares to "Pearl Harbor"?  I seem to recall a few mild objections to the latter.


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« Reply #509 on: January 22, 2012, 09:43:28 PM »
Now you've done it, Shifty!   :lol   My secret about flying with knee length cavalry boots is out.   :O

CHARGE!



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