B-17F

[Wagger]

Well now that we have the much, cough, cough, needed B-29 maybe we can get a He-111, or latter version of the Ju-88 series, or a Me-410.   Oh and maybe some soviet bombers and fighters. 

[Guppy35]

Yet still lot easier to do then create a whole new model. And indeed worth it, B-17F played a major part in WWII and it is a great shame it isn't included in AH plane set even after over 10 years of existance of this flight sim.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'd  be surprised at this point if HTC went that direction when the 29 just was added and things like the 111, Ki-43 etc would make more sense for any number of reasons.

[Koski]

There are loads of a/c that should be added, im all for He-111 for example. What comes to soviet bombers, we have the most important one (which actually is a ground attack a/c). The soviets didn't lay heavily on strategic bombers so no idea adding one. B-17F played a major part in the war so that is one major reason to add it, also,like I pointed out earlier it shouldn't be too hard to modify from the current B-17, hell, if we have 4 different versions of Bf 109G (which is fine, got to say this before I get all the Luftwaffles blowing on my neck ) why can't we have 2 different B-17s is beyond me?

And yes it is probably unrealistic to wait for the F version now that the B-29 was added. Personally I'd have preferred the B-17F (which historically was much more important) before the B-29 but I guess HTC wanted to provide some über candy for people to play with and perhaps attract some new customers.

The major personal reason for me blowing on the B-17F trumpet is that we could have 8th AAF vs LW scenarios spanning from early 1943, without the B-17F this is impossible.

[Guppy35]

I don't necessarily agree that you couldn't do a 1943 scenario with the 17s we have.  You'd just have to close your eyes a bit and pretend their F models.  In terms of bomb load and firepower it's basically the same.  It would be the range and type of fighter escorts that would be a bigger factor

[Fencer51]

The major personal reason for me blowing on the B-17F trumpet is that we could have 8th AAF vs LW scenarios spanning from early 1943, without the B-17F this is impossible.

(Fencer reads this, looks over at his note book, throws his hands up in the air and rips out 4 or 5 pages crumpling them up and throwing them in the trash) 

[olds442]

you really like that buff, dont you? you realize that if they incoporated that, the throttle controls would be confusing, and if you could get past that, you would have the engine fires to deal with?

well the B29s engs right now just dont randomley catch fire now due to heat

and i want one in the game for 2 reasons 1: we need a german bomber that is worth upping 2: same as #1

[Volron]

While I would like to see the He-177, the He-111 or even the Do-17 would be a more appropriate addition.

Now back to topic, What was the primary reason for adding the B-17G over the B-17F in the first place?  Was it put to a vote or did the HTC crew make the call?  While I would really love to see the B-17F, I think the next bomber to be added should be Italian or Russian.  Neither have a bomber to represent them and they both did use them quite a bit.  I'm leaning more towards Italian because currently they only have 2 planes for representation.

[Guppy35]

While I would like to see the He-177, the He-111 or even the Do-17 would be a more appropriate addition.

Now back to topic, What was the primary reason for adding the B-17G over the B-17F in the first place?  Was it put to a vote or did the HTC crew make the call?  While I would really love to see the B-17F, I think the next bomber to be added should be Italian or Russian.  Neither have a bomber to represent them and they both did use them quite a bit.  I'm leaning more towards Italian because currently they only have 2 planes for representation.

Seems to me if you were going to do one B17 then the B17G made the most sense as it covers 43-45 and considering latewar seems to be the primary interest, it covers that well.

The F would be nice for the early PTO MTO and ETO, but The G covers the most ground for one 17 model.

[Tyrannis]

i made a thread wishing for the E version myself.

and the b24D.

[SectorNine50]

Yet still lot easier to do then create a whole new model. And indeed worth it, B-17F played a major part in WWII and it is a great shame it isn't included in AH plane set even after over 10 years of existance of this flight sim.

 

Would it really serve to fill a gap, though?  I mean, if it's only a little bit different visually, I don't quite see a purpose...

[Tupac]

Would it really serve to fill a gap, though?  I mean, if it's only a little bit different visually, I don't quite see a purpose...

Scenarios, AvA etc etc

[Tyrannis]

Scenarios, AvA etc etc

would also be included in the EW arena.

[Wildcat1]

would also be included in the EW arena.

mid-war

[Tyrannis]

mid-war

if the E version got put in, it could be in early war.

[Koski]

Would it really serve to fill a gap, though?  I mean, if it's only a little bit different visually, I don't quite see a purpose...

Well, I ask you to go tell all the LW fanatics they should have only one version of Bf 109 because the versions differ only slightly visually, cmon...