the next a/c for Asces High is ...

[PJ_Godzilla]

I would rather see HTC "fundamentally" change how it approaches new aircraft.
They should take the inventory they have now and make up a "base aircraft" list, this list would be what everyone gets when 1st subcribing. After that each individual can purchase a new plane to be added to their list, it would stay on the list and could be used as long as your sub is current and paid for. not much but maybe 1$ to $5
 This would do 2 things:

#1- would motivate those who have accumulated a large inventory to maintain their account, paying on time etc.

#2- The added revenue would more than likely motivate HTC to put forth new product at a more frequent rate.

 As it is after just a couple days the B29 is less and less used, seems like a whole lot of effort for little to no return. WW1 could be seen as the same, much work little return. After all business is about making money and creating a product that maintains as well as grows your customer base!

I would surely be interested in this type of approach!



JUGgler

+1. This would incentivize r&d at HTC and would discourage dilettantism w/r types. First Law: incentives matter.

[JUGgler]

+1. This would incentivize r&d at HTC and would discourage dilettantism w/r types. First Law: incentives matter.

That's the word that escaped me!  TY

Simple economics, create something folks want and they will purchase it.
Incentivise the creator and he will continue to improve it at an increased frequency! In other words he will continue to INVEST resources to it's improvement!




JUGgler

[JOACH1M]

Yak 3 ki43

[oakranger]

I would rather see HTC "fundamentally" change how it approaches new aircraft.
They should take the inventory they have now and make up a "base aircraft" list, this list would be what everyone gets when 1st subcribing. After that each individual can purchase a new plane to be added to their list, it would stay on the list and could be used as long as your sub is current and paid for. not much but maybe 1$ to $5
 This would do 2 things:  This being a "one time" payment!

#1- would motivate those who have accumulated a large inventory to maintain their account, paying on time etc.

#2- The added revenue would more than likely motivate HTC to put forth new product at a more frequent rate.

 As it is, after just a couple days the B29 is less and less used, seems like a whole lot of effort for little to no return. WW1 could be seen as the same, much work little return. After all business is about making money and creating a product that maintains as well as grows your customer base!

I would surely be interested in this type of approach!



JUGgler

Sounds like a good idea. 

[moot]

I would rather see HTC "fundamentally" change how it approaches new aircraft.
They should take the inventory they have now and make up a "base aircraft" list, this list would be what everyone gets when 1st subcribing. After that each individual can purchase a new plane to be added to their list, it would stay on the list and could be used as long as your sub is current and paid for. not much but maybe 1$ to $5
 This would do 2 things:  This being a "one time" payment!

#1- would motivate those who have accumulated a large inventory to maintain their account, paying on time etc.

#2- The added revenue would more than likely motivate HTC to put forth new product at a more frequent rate.

 As it is, after just a couple days the B29 is less and less used, seems like a whole lot of effort for little to no return. WW1 could be seen as the same, much work little return. After all business is about making money and creating a product that maintains as well as grows your customer base!

I would surely be interested in this type of approach!



JUGgler

It's used by iRacing and it pisses/turns off a substantial number of potential players.

[PJ_Godzilla]

It's used by iRacing and it pisses/turns off a substantial number of potential players.

Sure. However, looking over the other threads, there's something to be said for picking the right clientele. I suspect you'll find that it takes a specific level of maturity and knowledge to accept that development carries a fixed cost. Those clients would self-select, leaving the whiners who piss and moan about a fi' dolla' upcharge to get a different model to go play AirQuake or Cap'n Crunch (whatevah).

I think HTC does well to find the dedicated historical air combat sim crowd and play to it - not to the MMOG crowd who are looking for the online game analog to the pet rock. I.E. it's a niche product. Long live the purity of the niche.

Just my opinion... I have no market data to back it up - and getting some would cost more than the 109s I'd buy from HTC.

[Belial]

M18

[tmetal]

Just wanting to understand your idea Juggler. You are saying that any aircraft not on the free, base list would have to each be purchased individually or all extra aircraft are purchased at once like buying a premium package of the game. Also would this be a one time only payment or would it be an additional monthly payment on top of the $14.95 most players pay now?  

Personally I wouldn't pay for extra aircraft every month and would have probably not ever signed up for AH in the first place if that was how it was run. (but that's just me) I also would not spend any extra money to add a newly introduced aircraft to my line up.  The way it is now with the perk setup, everybody has at least a small chance to work hard and earn enough perks to fly that aircraft they have been drooling over in more than just offline or in the TA, DA.  If new or high performance AC were only made available through extra money payments (one time or monthly) there would be a lot of people who would feel ignored, slighted, or just plain excluded from a part of the game simply because they won't or can't make the extra payment.

PJ - I agree that this method would help to bring in a certain clientele, but I also think that it wouldn't necessarily be a more mature clientele.  The way I see it is the squeakers and immature players are the ones spending their parents money to play this game and are more likely to be able to get more of that money to buy the uber rides. It also seems to me that a lot of the immature players are also the ones concerned the most about score and will be more willing to spend that extra money for the higher performance aircraft.

In summary, I think this would do more to decrease the amount of profit HTC would receive over a longer period of time vs the current way things are implemented.  Please don't take this as trying to be a jerk or trolling, I am just playing devils advocate and would really like to hear the answers to my questions above and any counter points people can make as well.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Just wanting to understand your idea Juggler. You are saying that any aircraft not on the free, base list would have to each be purchased individually or all extra aircraft are purchased at once like buying a premium package of the game. Also would this be a one time only payment or would it be an additional monthly payment on top of the $14.95 most players pay now?  

Personally I wouldn't pay for extra aircraft every month and would have probably not ever signed up for AH in the first place if that was how it was run. (but that's just me) I also would not spend any extra money to add a newly introduced aircraft to my line up.  The way it is now with the perk setup, everybody has at least a small chance to work hard and earn enough perks to fly that aircraft they have been drooling over in more than just offline or in the TA, DA.  If new or high performance AC were only made available through extra money payments (one time or monthly) there would be a lot of people who would feel ignored, slighted, or just plain excluded from a part of the game simply because they won't or can't make the extra payment.

In summary, I think this would do more to decrease the amount of profit HTC would receive over a longer period of time vs the current way things are implemented.  Please don't take this as trying to be a jerk or trolling, I am just playing devils advocate and would really like to hear the answers to my questions above and any counter points people can make as well.

My own vision is that since it's a fixed development cost, you'd pay a one-time fee. This fee could be tuned based on relative popularity/rarity and would offer another "lever" if you like. Jug's intent is unknown to me - though I know he likes upping the fatty.

[Mano]

This is a Wish List thread.

I'd like to see some more WWI planes ----> SE5a, Spad XIII, Fokker D.VII (with BMW 185 hp engine), Albatros DVa, and Halberstadt CL2

 
Mano

[tmetal]

My own vision is that since it's a fixed development cost, you'd pay a one-time fee. This fee could be tuned based on relative popularity/rarity and would offer another "lever" if you like. Jug's intent is unknown to me - though I know he likes upping the fatty.

OK, so how would you handle the introduction of new AC to the "pay extra" list. Would each new AC need to be bought as they came out to help cover the cost of continued R & D?, If not I would bet that eventually the amount of new players paying for the extra aircraft list would no longer provide enough extra profit to cover the cost of new aircraft model development.

Aaaaaaaaand on topic the next thing I want added is merchant/supply shipping convoys for me to stuka to death, however if this is a wish thread why is it in the general discussion forum and not the wishlist forum? 

[Chewie]

1. Add a quad 50cal to the m-16 (Trailer)
2. Spawn, long range arty (with a delay of 1min)
3. Self proplled arty
4. Ok, the He-111
 

[Ack-Ack]

I think HTC does well to find the dedicated historical air combat sim crowd and play to it - not to the MMOG crowd who are looking for the online game analog to the pet rock. I.E. it's a niche product. Long live the purity of the niche.

If AH switched to a micro-transaction business model where I had to purchase additional planes so I could fly them on top of a base subscription price, I'd thank HiTech for the fun over the years and cancel my subscription.

Just my opinion... I have no market data to back it up - and getting some would cost more than the 109s I'd buy from HTC.

Small, niche games like AH die quickly if switched to a micro-transaction business model.

ack-ack

[ARSNishi]

I was actually very surprised to NOT see the Yak 3 in the Aces High hanger when I first came over from Fighter Ace given it's popularity in that game, it's favored mount status amongst actual ww2 pilots who flew it, the fact that Luftwaffe pilots were ordered to avoid combat with it, and the number that actually saw combat.

[olds442]

Shall we start now?  With the B-29 finally in-game, I'm wondering what the next one up will be (apart from remodelling older birds)

My top three:

1. HE-177 - for cripes sake, add it already
2. Battleships or Individual controllable Destroyers
3. Oscar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!