Mac OX XV !!!

[gyrene81]

I moved to Mac two years ago. No problems whatsoever.  I've upgraded the hardware on both my machines (obviously, I wasn't smart enough to realise that it was impossible to do this). I even have a GDI based, "Windows only" printer that I still use as as my primary printer.  Yep - Macs certainly suck. 

if you weren't using a mac before the switch to intel cpu's, go sit in the corner...you're a mac noob.

[Hap]

If you say so then you haven't used it, really. Sorry but it's just not believable

I was like you, I almost quit my job the day I had to migrate to Mac. I was sooo pro windows and sooo why do I need to re-learn this and that. And now they'd have to pry mac away from my dead fingers.

Had a 24" iMac bought in 2006.  LOVED it.  Played AH with it.  It died just out of warranty.  Oh the sorrow.  I still loved it.  Easy to move to watch DVD's in main room.  Sorry it was pricey, but a wonderful box.

[AKH]

if you weren't using a mac before the switch to intel cpu's, go sit in the corner...you're a mac noob.

Actually, the biggest change was the move to OSX, not the change to Intel. Also, even a Mac noob knows that 10.5 was Leopard and 10.6 is Snow Leopard, unlike you.

[Skuzzy]

I seriously doubt that. Where was the automatic sync and integration with mobile devices in 90's?

PalmOS was the first mobile OS to do that around 1996.

Where's the near automatic setup of backups built in the OS?

UNIX V7 had this in the early 1980's.  You just had to turn it on.

Where's the online personal calender, webhost, image sharing and mobile device sync?

PalmOS again in the early 1990's.  There was also a UNIX application which did the same thing in the late 1980's.  I wrote it and distributed it for free (it lacked mobile support as mobile phones had not been invented yet).  It also seamlessly bridged Novell, 3Com Networks and UNIX servers together.  I would have included AppleTalk, but Apple would not allow it.

Where's the 'track my hardware after it gets stolen' on 90's?

Apple did not start that.  Several companies had it before Apple did (Garmin, OnStar....)

Where's the built in integration with Google maps and services?

Apple may have been first, but I am not sure.

Tens of thousands of free and paid apps?

In the early 1980's you could download thousands of UNIX applications for free, from many Newsgroups.

With apple things are as close to plug and play as you can get where on PC you're in for manual labour to achieve the simplest of things just to find out its bugging out on you.

As long as you use Apple certified hardware, this is true.  Not so much for hardware not certified by Apple.

People do not give credit to Apple how it set trends and created knowns out of things that were deemed impossible or hype by the mainstream PC people. People laughed about tabs before iPad. Now everyone plays catch-up.

This is just Apple's brilliant marketing at work.  They are very good at marketing and convincing people they need something when they really do not need it.  That is what great marketing is supposed to do.

The Apple motto 'it just works' is really where it boils down to. For people who don't want to spend time using the operating system as opposed to doing something productive, there's no better option at the moment than Mac.

That is highly subjective.  I find Apple computers to be tedious and cumbersome to use.  That is my subjective point of view.  I also think their development environment sucks.

[gyrene81]

Actually, the biggest change was the move to OSX, not the change to Intel. Also, even a Mac noob knows that 10.5 was Leopard and 10.6 is Snow Leopard, unlike you.

...and "code names" are cool right? the biggest change was to the intel hardware platform...apple couldn't economically progress with osx development without it.

[AKH]

ROFL

[MrRiplEy[H]]

PalmOS was the first mobile OS to do that around 1996.

I don't think you understand what I was getting to there... PalmOS support was hardly built in to any desktop computer like Apple has for its devices. They require little else than plugging in the USB to start syncing. Things are a couple clicks away in stead of having to read manuals with large warning signs not to plug your device before installing and running the driver cd etc. Or having to choose communication ports during setup (a task that's nothing short of disaster for any layman).[/quote]

No, you had to install the PalmOS utility into Windows.  And how is that a bad thing?  I was not aware Apple installed every application made for thier computer.  That explains the higher price.

UNIX V7 had this in the early 1980's.  You just had to turn it on.

Hmm, Unix detected your networked backup device automatically and offered you the option to schedule backups? I think a little more 'turning on' was required [/quote]

Yes, it did.  Obviously you never worked with that particular OS.

The cool thing about OSX is that it makes things so easy that you can do stuff with no previous experience on it. A far cry of any *nix or even latest windows.

Tell that to the Apple software engineers who had to sit with me for a month as I continually locked up thier computer.  All they would say, is, "You are not suppose to do that.", as they power cycled the computer.  Never mind my 30+ years of computer experience.  I can hard lock an Apple computer in less than 10 seconds.

There is nothing intuitive about any computer.  The fact I find a UNIX CLI easier to use than anything (and faster for most things; yes, I won a $100.00 bet with an Apple engineer over that one), says a lot about how poorly designed most UI's are.  UI's restrict people.  They are designed for users who do not want to do anything but what the designer will allow.  They are cumbersome for anyone who can actually think for themselves and like exploring the potential in what a computer can do for you.

[dedalos]

I haven't see that much hype since the last religion announced their savior was coming down to lead them to the promised land.

Bahahahaah 

[Vulcan]

I don't think you understand what I was getting to there... PalmOS support was hardly built in to any desktop computer like Apple has for its devices. They require little else than plugging in the USB to start syncing. Things are a couple clicks away in stead of having to read manuals with large warning signs not to plug your device before installing and running the driver cd etc. Or having to choose communication ports during setup (a task that's nothing short of disaster for any layman).

Same applies for iphones/ipods/ipads on Windows. It requires itunes. No choice about that. Itunes needs to be installed. Microsoft could probably do the same for Windows, but anti-competitive law suits would drown them. Saying ohhh and iphone sync's out of the box with a mac is not saying a lot really (mind you an iphone won't sync to an older mac will it - you had to upgrade the whole OS for that).

[gyrene81]

psssst vulcan...this is ripley and the rest of the noob mac users:




notice no one in this discussion who owned mac's long before osx are posting delusional garbage about the wonders of apple's innovations... 

[B-17]

WOOT! I can't wait till it comes out!!! 


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opposum

read the last word on the first picture. 'crossbred' was misspelt as 'crossbreAd' FAIL.

[AKH]

[nrshida]

It's interesting how the theme and direction of this thread has altered to produce the desired effect. First it started out with an unwarranted and uninvited attack on OS X. Several Mac users contributed their experiences and the argument steered into extreme detail about this irrelevant specific feature or that. Then latterly the attempt to discredit anyone who hasn't owned a Mac before OS X as not being qualified to comment at all. Finally the standard ridicule and insult ploy.

The irony is, those accusing some of the posters of being delusional Mac Fanatics have only succeeded in showing themselves to be irrational Mac haters, so you've kind of cancelled each other out leaving ordinary Mac users wondering why the crusade against Macs even exists in the first place.

What happened to the concepts of freedom of choice, objectivity, thinking for yourself and respecting other people's choices even if they differ from your own?

[RTHolmes]

well said

[RTHolmes]

I also think their development environment sucks.

just spotted this - wow really? I havent done any windows app development so cant speak for the MS IDE, but having used Codewarrior for years (which was very good) I was blown away by how intuitive and quick working in xcode is. the interface builder is just brilliant, and the code editor is so good its the first time I havent bothered to work in my fav text editor.