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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2011, 01:28:35 AM »
is this something specific to the 5770 models? I have not heard of this before.... never had this problem with any Ati cards in the past ....... thought it was dependent on the monitor's alloted refresh and the graphics card refresh depending on what res one uses???

Crossfire is most likely the culprit there.
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2011, 02:23:05 AM »
March 18th will see the release of the EVGA X67 MBs which are slated to run $199 (SLI) and probably $359 for the Classified version. These are socket 1155 MBs so if you have fears from recent press releases on Intel Sandy Bridge you should look the other way. These boards do not support PCI as every slot is PCIe of one sort or another. ASUS and Gigabyte also have their own versions out and all of them are dual-channel designs versus the tri-channel 1366 designs. They do offer SATA3 and USB3 but only two ports each.

I will be building three systems but I am going to be a slow adopter this time and keep an eye on the EVGA forums for an idea as to how things are going.
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2011, 06:18:41 PM »
if you want it for ah, get an Intel cpu.  less problems playing ah per skuzzy.  he has mentioned this in many threads.  I believe he's talking as a group he has more problems with amd than with intel.  then there's the one core thingy which I don't understand but you may want to research.  as for getting six cores ah only uses two so get the fastest two core cpu you can afford rather than a slower zilion cores.


semp

this is just one opinion of thousands........ I have been here playing Aces High since Beta and I have used AMD cpu's the whole time, outside of building an Intel celeron 333 cpu computer for my (x)father-in-law to play the game back in 99/2000  and tweaking an Intel Pent 4 to play the game ( which truly sucked in my opinion but it had more to do with the complete components combined in that person's PC )..... I have not had problems with AMD and Aces High.....

their are thousands here in Aces High who have AMD equipped computers and have no problems..... then again, their are 100's ( or maybe thousands ) that have AMD (and also the same amount that have Intel ) and they always have problems with Aces High...... but most times these problems are not because Aces High will not work with the CPU ( regardless of CPU brand ).it is because the users with the troubled computers bloat their PC's down, try to use P2P file sharing programs, try to go beyond the means of what the complete PC build is actually capable of, and numerous other things which is actually USER ERROR and IGNORANCE or incompetence with only the knowledge of turning the PC on and double clicking /scrolling and nothing more......

Skuzzy recommends Intel, and Aces High has less or ( easier problem fixes perhaps ) with Intel......

but if one does the proper question asking, research of components, specing out a build the proper mixing of components, then there is nothing wrong with AMD and AH working flawlessly, even if you might be limited to just using a single core of a multi-core CPU....... you can still build a PC with AMD that will flat out haul bellybutton and have the ability to run everything maxed out at the highest screen res settings, with no problems...... it has been proven many times over already

NOTE: btw the spellchecker is biased it includes Intel in the dictionary but does not include AMD  :rofl  :D

NOTE: this is a personal opinion also just like the one I quoted

if ya need any help just ask, lots here are willing to offer you advice, but be sure to double check and research everything

best of luck

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2011, 06:51:39 PM »
so amd uses only one core while intel uses 2, is that correct?  just so I understand better how is that same as intel? 

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2011, 07:13:52 PM »
I personally use a amd 3.0 quad amd overclocked to 3300. (suppose I could go more , but have no interest.) I also use a 8800 gt video card, 4 gig ram on a 32 bit winblows OS. I can play aces high with 59 frame rate with some AA on, and eye candy, but I do not use the high texture download or shadows. Sometimes I lose framerate, but I do not turn off extra processes. I keep my anti virus on and firewall on.

I am neither endorsing Intel or AMD, if I were to build a computer and wanted budget I would build AMD. If I were to go spend alot of money I would go Intel.

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2011, 11:52:45 PM »
so amd uses only one core while intel uses 2, is that correct?  just so I understand better how is that same as intel? 

semp
geez semp...nowhere did tc say anything of that sort...read it again...
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2011, 12:56:17 AM »
dont want to quote the whole text but see this.

but if one does the proper question asking, research of components, specing out a build the proper mixing of components, then there is nothing wrong with AMD and AH working flawlessly, even if you might be limited to just using a single core of a multi-core CPU....... you can still build a PC with AMD that will flat out haul bellybutton and have the ability to run everything maxed out at the highest screen res settings, with no problems...... it has been proven many times over already

i built my puter for around 700 and played withe everything maxed out including hi res and shadows at 2014(or whatever it is).  it's an intel e8400 based cpu with an evga 9800gtx+.  I had mine oc to 3.8.  had no problems playing ah with it. i researched mine and i wouldda saved less than 100 bucks but perhaps i would've had some headaches.  so i decided the money saved wasnt worth the trouble, if I had any.  Not saying i wouldda had, but i looked at it as insurance.  i couldda gotten it for cheaper if i had gotten some lesser components. but oh well.

now the reason i am asking  about the 1 v 2 core is because my son is building one and well that gives him an option.

    

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2011, 01:01:58 AM »
then there's the one core thingy which I don't understand but you may want to research.
semp
he was referencing your reference of the "one core thingy"...he's saying even if only one core of a multi-core cpu is utilzed, amd cpu's can handle it as well as intel.
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2011, 04:51:00 AM »
he was referencing your reference of the "one core thingy"...he's saying even if only one core of a multi-core cpu is utilzed, amd cpu's can handle it as well as intel.

it was my understanding that ah only uses 1 core of amd while intel uses two.

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2011, 06:47:26 AM »
"SWHOOSH over the head"  :rofl
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2011, 08:02:24 PM »
If I read the info page from Ver 223 Patch 2:

A fix has been included in AH that should fix the issue w/ AMD cpu's running in compatibility mode (which we all know is setting the OS to allow usage of only 1 cpu core).


The question is......................

Has anyone w/ an AMD dual-core or higher have tested this to be true?

Shouldn't be an issue from now on, but.......................... ............................. ............................?

I don't know as I'm using an Intel CPU.

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2011, 08:10:33 PM »
That brings me to another thought...................... .........................

If Hitech & Co have indeed fixed this issue w/ the AMD cpus in the game software then this should change the cpu debate somewhat as far as AH is concerned.................... ...but, since I'm not the 1 that has to provide customer support for AH, my statement here is only my opinion & not representative of Hitech & Co.

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2011, 08:51:16 PM »
If I read the info page from Ver 223 Patch 2:

A fix has been included in AH that should fix the issue w/ AMD cpu's running in compatibility mode
(which we all know is setting the OS to allow usage of only 1 cpu core).


The fix was so that "Some people" with AMD dual/triple/quad core CPU's do not have to use windows compatibility mode

they still will only get use of only 1 of the 2 or more cores of their CPU ( depending if dual/Triple/Quad/etc ) they just do not have to right click and click on "run in winXP or Win98 compatability mode"

for instance, I have never had to use the "Windows Compatability mode" function to get my AH to work correctly with my dual Core CPU computers..... while others had to to get the game to play correctly.....

hope this helps
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2011, 09:25:00 PM »
which brings up the in some instances amd might not be best for playing ah. and even though it costs less than intel  well you're better off buying intel.

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2011, 11:38:25 PM »
which brings up the in some instances amd might not be best for playing ah. and even though it costs less than intel  well you're better off buying intel.

semp

we get it, you like Intel......

most definitely if you are incompetent and do not want to bother with researching your PC build and are unsure of building a PC and want to have someone else always fixing your problems when you screw up and do P2P, play pogo, etc....

which seems to be why you resorted to an Intel build, semp...... you said you was unsure of yourself, I mean just go back and look through all your computer related threads

but it's ok, most of us who have custom built an AMD machine like what we have and are extremely happy with how they perform playing Aces High........  and we get it, we save 200 to 800 dollars and got just as good performance...it's a win win


but seriously? why must you keep on posting your inane idiotic replys and screwing up a decent thread where someone inquired about some help, I will never understand, guess it is just your way.......

have a good evening

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