I really wish they would go to a Air Warrior type HO shot!

[IronDog]

If you are tired of listening to the HO whines and would like the HO % dropped to a like pure luck shot,and collisions taken out,raise your hand!There are a few out there that don't HO,but the number is small.Smaller than most will admit.I'm a terrible Ho'er but I've learned you have to use it,as most players will resort to it every time.I have had players PM me with nice HO shot,followed with a abusive insult,just after they tried to HO me,but I won the HO contest.'I prefer the nice pick PM,as that tells me I'm doing my type of flying well.
You could get in a HO shot in AW with a P38 or Skeeter now and then,but few even messed with the HO.The collision model was also right on,as I have witnessed collisions that defy explanation.Just turn them off!
Dale has it correct about pizzing the other guy off is what this sim is all about,and the HO is keeping that pizzing the other guy off,alive and well!
I would like to see it go.A guy that doesn't HO and gets a face full will learn very quickly that players in this game will use every trick in the book to get a kill!
The Dawg

[gyrene81]

good luck with that... 

[The Fugitive]

I hear ya ID. A few of us had a discussion HERE. My thoughts are that it's the first move a newbi learns because it's the easiest, and has some success with it. The problem today is most people are OK with that as their "best move" and no longer try to get better by learning other moves. I think it's more of a social issue (kids brought up playing games like WoW and running around screaming "Leroy Jenkins!!!") than a game issue.

[Lusche]

If you are tired of listening to the HO whines and would like the HO % dropped to a like pure luck shot,and collisions taken out,raise your hand!

That would be the epitome of arcade & gameyness. Luckily, I don't even need to stomp my feet, shake my fist and threaten "If that happens, I'm outta here!" ... because it never ever will 

[SunBat]

I so rarely am even touched by a HO shot, even in a largely outnumbered fight.  I don't see why old vets like you and Fugitive haven't learned how to avoid them after all these years.  

[The Fugitive]

I so rarely am even touched by a HO shot, even in a largely outnumbered fight.  I don't see why old vets like you and Fugitive haven't learned how to avoid them after all these years.  

I avoid them very easily. The problem is every plane coming at you is doing the same move. In ID case he goes for it because that's what everyone does. Me I try and set them up to die in a turn or two. Of course in most cases once they can't HO you any more they run to friends or ack because it's all they know.

[CAP1]

i've always had trouble hitting if i try to ho.....i've gotten decent at dodging them now.

[flatiron1]

what if you were hoing bombers? Beside in real combat this feature is not available.

[FLS]

There was nothing in AW that is better than Aces High.

If you think the current collisions defy explanations you just don't understand the explanations.

[Latrobe]

I always avoid the HO shot. Maybe it's just me but I don't like to have the enemy be able to shoot at me. Usually it results in death.

[FiLtH]

Id prefer the AW way. It forced you to fight if you wanted a kill. I remember the picker types complaining in that game. Well, they finally got a game to suit them here.

[ink]

I think it would be bad.....even though I cant stand a person whos only trick is the "HO"....."cant stand" to strong of words....its a game who cares......but it should have some semblance of reality for the sim part, it was a tactic, and in certain plane match ups its necessary, they are quit easy to avoid...I dont think its the particular HO shot that you don't like its the mentality of the newer players (and some older ones)  who play as if there very life depended on it.    id suggest just trying to enjoy the game and think when you first roll a sortie every one you meet in the air is gonna HO you, so when they do you wont be surprised and when they don't...you can enjoy a good fight. 

[Yeager]

Bad idea.  The problem I have with it is that it takes a bullet and tells it "no!".  A bullet is propelled out the barrel and goes where it is pointed until it hits something, and thats the way it should be.  If HTC turned off ANY shot taken, then AH would no longer be any type of air combat simulation.  It would instead be cheap arcade tool, a waste of time.

No sir.  Dont be lazy Irondog.  Play the game smartly and enjoy yourself 

[moot]

It takes two to HO.
It takes bad SA/maneuvering to be HO'd.  Or just plain bad luck - some sorties just aren't meant to be.

[VAMPIRE 2?]

HO? who's dumb enough to drive their car on the wrong side of the road? and not turn once they realize when another car comes to view?  
HO?!!! just tap the trigger and roll out, don't stick it out!  if you die in the HO it's your fault AND theirs! you both did it! fartknockers!  
just roll    just roll   just roll