I have nothing against hordes. I just wonder why, if in a horde, are they so standoffish. I flew with a horde to fight a horde a couple of days ago. Many climbed to about 8k or more. I went in at 2k in a plane I may have flown once before, f4-1. Landed 6 kills. Zipping through the sea of red, chronically checking my 6, pointing my nose up, nervously, and hoping my buds clear my 6. They did at least 3 times.
It is the most awesome feeling to face your fear and fly into what may be certain death and come out clean on the other side. I'm not a great pilot for sure, but I do have confidence that I will at least give many players a tough time in the ma, under that type of pressure.
Oh a hint for the novice. Many people look up when on the deck and for good reason. What they don't expect is someone coming in on the deck to get them.