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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #90 on: March 09, 2011, 03:54:12 PM »
Comparisons of r/l handling is NOT the point. However much the Meteor may have been a dog in r/l, I am almost willing to guarantee that if it ever ends up added to AHII, it will be modeled in such a way that it will make the 262 (and probably quite a few prop jobs) look like the dog.
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #91 on: March 09, 2011, 03:57:38 PM »
.   Btw could you get a report that a meteor killed any flying enemy aircraft? If yes, its almost sure sooner or later you can fly it.

It never even shot at a piloted aircraft, let alone killed one.  It is credited with V1 knockdowns only.  I read that there was one singly time where they "reportedly" actually were setting up for a bounce on a squadron of FW-190's..... but were jumped by friendly aircraft that mis-identified the Meteors as Me262's.  I seem to recall it was a squadron of Tempests that happened over top and bounced the Meteors. i would have to get a source on that, though.

So, in short, no.  The Meteor is frequently said to never have encountered a Luftwaffe aircraft in flight.  
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #92 on: March 09, 2011, 03:58:28 PM »
Comparisons of r/l handling is NOT the point. However much the Meteor may have been a dog in r/l, I am almost willing to guarantee that if it ever ends up added to AHII, it will be modeled in such a way that it will make the 262 (and probably quite a few prop jobs) look like the dog.

So they model the crap fuel of the Ki84... but not the actual performance of the Meteor.  Seriously, what are you smokin?
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #93 on: March 09, 2011, 03:59:19 PM »
BnZ if the Meteor's nose is as vague at speed as the Yak's can get at lower speeds... Would you consider that a significant issue for the Meteor?  Considering its other attributes. eg "atrocious" roll rate.
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #94 on: March 09, 2011, 04:01:19 PM »
So they model the crap fuel of the Ki84... but not the actual performance of the Meteor.  Seriously, what are you smokin?

The Ki-84 should be able to generate X horsepower at Y boost with Z fuel...this is a simple numerical data. Descriptions of snarky handling traits is not.
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #95 on: March 09, 2011, 04:05:43 PM »
It never even shot at a piloted aircraft, let alone killed one.  It is credited with V2 knockdowns only.  I read that there was one singly time where they "reportedly" actually were setting up for a bounce on a squadron of FW-190's..... but were jumped by friendly aircraft that mis-identified the Meteors as Me262's.  I seem to recall it was a squadron of Tempests that happened over top and bounced the Meteors. i would have to get a source on that, though.

So, in short, no.  The Meteor is frequently said to never have encountered a Luftwaffe aircraft in flight.  

In the context of AH why would you assume they would have had to engage luftwaffe aircraft in combat?   Unless you thought that the AvA was the most popular arena.

When we have spit vs spit,  temp vs temp,  262 vs 262,  meteor vs meteor etc.  If they tangled in that engagement during WW2 try telling those pilots whose lives were on the line that it didn't matter.
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #96 on: March 09, 2011, 04:10:21 PM »
BnZ if the Meteor's nose is as vague at speed as the Yak's can get at lower speeds... Would you consider that a significant issue for the Meteor?  Considering its other attributes. eg "atrocious" roll rate.

I consider how poor/badly the Meteor will handle when actually modeled at best luck of the draw.

It could have every little quirk modeled to the hilt-like the Ta-152.

Or its handling difficulties could disappear down the same hole where the F4U's mean stall and the Zero's vulnerability in high-speed dives went.

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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #97 on: March 09, 2011, 04:49:21 PM »
In the context of AH why would you assume they would have had to engage luftwaffe aircraft in combat?   Unless you thought that the AvA was the most popular arena.

When we have spit vs spit,  temp vs temp,  262 vs 262,  meteor vs meteor etc.  If they tangled in that engagement during WW2 try telling those pilots whose lives were on the line that it didn't matter.

Because that is the criteria for inclusion in the game.  Actual combat.
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #98 on: March 09, 2011, 05:01:49 PM »
It never even shot at a piloted aircraft, let alone killed one.  It is credited with V2 knockdowns only.  I read that there was one singly time where they "reportedly" actually were setting up for a bounce on a squadron of FW-190's..... but were jumped by friendly aircraft that mis-identified the Meteors as Me262's.  I seem to recall it was a squadron of Tempests that happened over top and bounced the Meteors. i would have to get a source on that, though.

So, in short, no.  The Meteor is frequently said to never have encountered a Luftwaffe aircraft in flight. 
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #99 on: March 09, 2011, 05:15:54 PM »
V2 kills!! Wow it must be a whole lot faster than reported!  :O
lol bud
Btw, im not against the meteor, but with the same theory there could be a DOC (Do335 Operation Command), whose motto could be "kill the RAF wannabes", so got my point. OK it was a dumb example, but still.
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #100 on: March 09, 2011, 05:22:48 PM »
I think he is laughing because you typed in V2, ie the Cruise missile and DOC's "motto could be I wish they could have built more then 22 of us"  :lol
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2011, 05:37:45 PM »
lol bud
Btw, im not against the meteor, but with the same theory there could be a DOC (Do335 Operation Command), whose motto could be "TRY to kill the RAF wannabes", so got my point. OK it was a dumb example, but still.
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2011, 05:40:05 PM »
omfg, you still cant see it. What makes you blinded, Mick?  :cry
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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #103 on: March 09, 2011, 05:40:43 PM »
the Meteor MK. III is one purty airplane

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Re: 262 peer
« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2011, 05:41:49 PM »
V2 kills!! Wow it must be a whole lot faster than reported!  :O

LOL, yeah uh, fat fingers.. V1 kills.
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