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« Reply #480 on: April 08, 2011, 01:01:24 PM »
I don't think they will able to do that as the reactor buildings are so close to the water. In #2 they will use the building as the form and poor 6" to 1' increments. They will have to make some kind of containment for the cement around the others.
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You do not need a form to make a pile of concrete.  You just mix it so the slump is minimal.  Fairly simple procedure in the construction industry.
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #481 on: April 11, 2011, 04:58:14 AM »
Nuclear exclusion zone to be expanded.

Another aftershock... this one 100 miles N of Tokyo, buildings sway downtown, power briefly cut at Fukushima Dai-ichi complex.

Here is some NHK video from Fukushima.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DU1IrUv3eI&feature=player_embedded#at=27

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URGENT: Japan to expand evacuation areas near crippled nuclear plant

TOKYO, April 11, Kyodo

The government will expand evacuation districts near the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, its top spokesman said Monday.

With the crisis at the plant dragging out, some municipalities within a 20- to 30-kilometer radius of the power plant will now be designated as additional evacuation areas, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said at a news conference.

Residents in the radius are at the moment urged to stay indoors.

==Kyodo
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/84586.html

Japan Rattled by Aftershock One Month After Massive Quake, Tsunami

Published April 11, 2011


A strong earthquake rattled Japan's northeast Monday and sparked a fresh tsunami alert one-month after a massive temblor and wave that devastated the northeastern coast and unleashed a still-unfolding nuclear crisis.

The 7.1-magnitude aftershock briefly forced Tokyo's main international airport to close both of its runways. The epicenter was just inland and about 100 miles north of Tokyo. The operator of the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear complex said the latest quake briefly cut off power to three of the plants reactors.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said that the power supply used to pump cooling water to the reactors has since been restored.

A warning was issued for a three-foot tsunami, the same as for after an aftershock that shook the northeast coast last week. That quake generated no tsunami. Japan's weather agency lifted the tsunami warning a little over an hour after the quake hit.

People at a large electronics store in the northeastern city of Sendai screamed and ran outside, though the shaking made it hard to move around. Mothers grabbed their children, and windows shook. After a minute or two, people returned to the store.

Kyodo News agency reported that buildings were swaying in Tokyo.

There were no new reports of damage. Aftershocks have repeatedly rattled the disaster-weary region, but there is little left in the northeast to ruin. Last Thursday's 7.1-magnitude aftershock, which had been the strongest tremor since the day the original quake hit, did sink hundreds of thousands more households into darkness, however. Most of that electricity has been restored....

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04/11/japan-rattled-aftershock-quake-anniversary/

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #482 on: April 11, 2011, 03:42:25 PM »
Nuclear exclusion zone to be expanded.

[URGENT: Japan to expand evacuation areas near crippled nuclear plant

TOKYO, April 11, Kyodo

The government will expand evacuation districts near the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, its top spokesman said Monday.

With the crisis at the plant dragging out, some municipalities within a 20- to 30-kilometer radius of the power plant will now be designated as additional evacuation areas, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said at a news conference.

Residents in the radius are at the moment urged to stay indoors.

==Kyodo
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/84586.html


 I was thinking about this. The U.S. would have put a 50 mile evac area around the plant in this situation maybe more. If this happened at our local toxic pit there are some very large cities that would have to evac. I can't even imagine the turmoil that would play out. Where would we go? No place fast thats for sure.

Some of large cities/county's include:
Riverside, Long, Newport and Huntington Beaches, Dana Point, San Clemente, Oceanside, Encinitas, LaJolla, Mission, Pacific, and Ocean Beach's, Point loma... the whole coastline from the Palisades to SanDiego. Inland as far as Banning, Pomona, Anza, Ramona  the whole I-15 and I-5 southren corridors  etc.... were talking millions of people.  Most of San Diego county, Most of Riverside County, All of Orange county, and Lower part of LA county, 5-6 military bases.

That's 6-7 million folks maybe more :frown:
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #483 on: April 11, 2011, 07:47:15 PM »
The evacuation areas have changed throughout this episode, as circumstances have dictated it. A simple radius didn't take into account geography and winds of the area, so it's being modified based on monitoring data.

I don't know if it's been reported in the west, but Japan uses maximum thresholds of cumulative radiation exposure and concentrations that are less than half of the standards used in the rest of the world. So when you hear that levels are x times the Japanese standard, in many cases, it would have still not have reached the maximum amount used in the US or Europe.

There is no 50 mile evacuation scenario in US evacuation planning. The only place 50 miles is mentioned is in monitoring. The 50 mile evacuation advisory posted on the US embassy website based on the NRC chairman's comments has been criticized widely by the commission members and technical experts throughout the industry.

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« Reply #484 on: April 11, 2011, 08:18:35 PM »
After one month, I just want to say that I'm getting pretty weary of earthquakes. We've had 380 earthquakes of magnitude 5.0 or greater in the last month since the 9.0 quake. Every single day we have quakes. Most are centered less than 50 miles north of me, some less than 20 miles away. I've never experienced anything like this in 20 years here, and it looks like it might continue for another year.

Calling them "aftershocks" makes them seem like they are somehow weaker. They are not. They are real earthquakes, just like any other quake. Let me tell you, 7.0+ quakes centered so close will shake you pretty good. But, we have braces and straps for cabinets, bookcases and big TVs, etc, so things don't break, but it wears you down every day and night, because you never know how big one will be when it starts. You hear it rolling towards you, waking you up a second before the shaking begins.

The Fukushima situation continues to overshadow the real disaster and victims - the 27,000+ who lost their lives, the 100,000+ who lost everything, plus the million+ people who have lost their livelihoods. The hard work of cleaning up isn't The area was a rich agricultural region. Farmers and businesses completely unaffected by contamination are affected by the stigma of fear as some governments have gone so far as to ban all products from Japan.

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« Reply #485 on: April 11, 2011, 08:50:03 PM »
Right on, Rolex. These earthquakes are monsters in their own right. I hate "the new normal" being foisted onto us for years now.
We wish you and yours the best.


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URGENT: UPDATE1: Japan to raise nuke accident severity level to highest 7 from 5

TOKYO, April 12, Kyodo

Japan has decided to raise the severity level of the accident at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant to 7, the highest on an international scale, from the current 5, government sources said Tuesday.

The sources close to the Nuclear and Industry Safety Agency under the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry said the Japanese government decided to raise the level to the highest 7 on the International Nuclear Event Scale, which has so far only been applied to the 1986 Chernobyl catastrophe.

The current provisional evaluation of 5 is at the same level as the Three Mile Island accident in the United States in 1979.

==Kyodo

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #486 on: April 11, 2011, 09:37:02 PM »
Sundowner, as far as evac in the case of an American nuclear accident, each plant has emergency procedures and plans.  They have employees who constantly monitor the weather situations, and direct lines to emergency agencies and the like, this is all highly regulated.
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« Reply #487 on: April 11, 2011, 10:48:14 PM »
Sundowner, as far as evac in the case of an American nuclear accident, each plant has emergency procedures and plans.  They have employees who constantly monitor the weather situations, and direct lines to emergency agencies and the like, this is all highly regulated.


 Unless the owners of the plant are similar <liars> and is one of the worst, of the 104 plants, as far as safety here in the US even the employee's are afraid to say when something is wrong. OH ....and there is a new fault they just found 5 miles out a submersion fault Guess the name...... Yes "The San Onofre Fault"   :O  They do have large sirens in the hillsides.  :rolleyes:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/29/eveningnews/main20048512.shtml


Thats the I-5 in the background behind that is Camp Pendelton.
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« Reply #488 on: April 11, 2011, 11:06:31 PM »
You do not need a form to make a pile of concrete.  You just mix it so the slump is minimal.  Fairly simple procedure in the construction industry.

Well how many reactors have you seen decommissioned?
Basically the same process it takes 10 years or so per reactor. Look at the picture above. To the far left just out of view the remains of #1 at SanOnofre
50ft pile of crete its now a parking lot

All the Billions to make and clean up and a sarcophagus at the end for 25 measly years of cheap power.

One of the first walls
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/workers-build-wall-to-contain-japan-radiation/148762-2.html

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #489 on: April 11, 2011, 11:30:37 PM »
Well how many reactors have you seen decommissioned?
Basically the same process it takes 10 years or so per reactor. Look at the picture above. To the far left just out of view the remains of #1 at SanOnofre
50ft pile of crete its now a parking lot

All the Billions to make and clean up and a sarcophagus at the end for 25 measly years of cheap power.

One of the first walls
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/workers-build-wall-to-contain-japan-radiation/148762-2.html




Yep, we may as well start freaking out about all of our nuclear plants now...  In the last 2 decades, technology hasn't changed, regulations haven't changed, and people just don't care because coal and natural gas are SO much safer and far easier to replenish than nuclear...  (Sarcasm)

Try to tell the (former) residents of Centrailia, PA that coal is safer than nuclear.  

Natrual gas you say?  Enterprise Products Mont Belvieu (TX) facility may beg to differ on the safety of those plants.

Wind/solar power...  Worthless unless used in a small scale application.

Nuclear is still the most efficient and safest form of power production we have.  
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #490 on: April 12, 2011, 04:51:17 AM »
Fukushima plant rattled by another quake, water injection not disrupted


TOKYO, April 12, Kyodo

The crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant was rattled by another strong aftershock of the massive March 11 earthquake on Tuesday afternoon, a day after a similar jolt led to the temporary suspension of coolant water injection into the plant's three troubled reactors.

While workers temporarily evacuated, no disruption to the pumps injecting water into the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors or the electrical power source of the six-reactor complex was detected following the 2:07 p.m. quake that had a preliminary magnitude of 6.3, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.....
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/84908.html

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« Reply #491 on: April 12, 2011, 05:05:16 AM »
Russian "Landysh " vessel may be deployed to Fukushima.
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Russia floating nuclear waste plant ready to depart for Japan

08.04.2011, 14.25


VLADIVOSTOK, April 8 (Itar-Tass) - Russia’s floating plant for the processing of radioactive waste - the Landysh - is ready to depart for Japan to work at any moment, the vessel’s captain Vladimir Bobkov told Japanese and Russian journalists on Friday.

Reporters of the Japanese Kyodo and NHK companies on Friday got an opportunity to get familiarised with the work of the unique vessel that is part of the technological process of scrapping nuclear submarines decommissioned from the RF Pacific Fleet at the Bolshoi Kamen town in the Primorsky Territory. The Japanese journalists could see the vessel completely and get acquainted with the crew.

The excursion was organised because of the major interest evoked by the Landysh work after the Japanese government turned to Russia with a request to consider the use of the floating plant at the Fukushima-1 emergency nuclear power plant.

The Landysh floating plant for liquid radioactive waste treatment has for almost 10 years been working at the Zvezda shipyard in Primorsky Territory’s town of Bolshoi Kamen. Over this period it has processed over 5,000 tonnes of liquid radioactive waste (LRW). It was built under the Global Partnership Programme with Japanese budget money and used in the disposal of nuclear submarines decommissioned from the Pacific Fleet.

The floating factory is installed on a non-propelled barge with the displacement of 3,900 tonnes and it can be towed to any desired place. The vessel has a double hull, and its waste treatment unit is installed in a concrete cocoon with 400-mm thick walls, which totally rules out the possibility of hazardous substances’ getting into the water. The Landysh crew consists of 46 members.

The Zvezda shipyard directorate told Itar-Tass that the absence of the Landysh will not affect in any way the technological process of waste recycling. “There are alternatives to such operations,” a shipyard official said.

On Monday, public relations director of Russia’s State Nuclear Corporation (Rosatom) Sergei Novikov said that the Japanese side requested Russia to consider the use of this vessel for operations at Japan’s quake-stricken nuclear power plant. “If the Japanese side is satisfied with the unit’s technical characteristics, it can be moved to the area of the Fukushima-1 NPP in the shortest time possible,” he said......

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #492 on: April 14, 2011, 05:03:18 AM »
No one expected a 47 foot wave to come ashore.

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More Than 100 'Safe' Evacuation Centers Destroyed by Japan Tsunami

TOKYO -- Japan's Nuclear Safety Agency was set Thursday to view safety measures at nuclear plants across the country, as a report revealed that more than 100 designated evacuation centers were destroyed by the March 11 tsunami triggered by a magnitude-9.0 earthquake.

Following the tremor, countless residents sought refuge in evacuation sites designated safe by local government authorities, but were swept to their deaths, Kyodo News reported.

To date, no figures on the number of people who perished at the sites have been tallied.

As the nation continued to deal with the aftermath of the disaster, hundreds of police in protective gear for the first time scoured rubble-strewn neighborhoods near the crippled Fukushima power plant for bodies, AFP reported.

A force of 300 officers was deployed into the no-man's land -- pushing closer towards the plant after they started a wider search on April 3 that covered the outer areas of the 12-mile (20km) exclusion zone.

Police said many bodies were likely still in the area immediately around the complex, and that any remains would have to be thoroughly washed down before they could be taken away for autopsy and then cremation or burial.

The search came as Emperor Akihito made his first trip to a disaster-hit area, visiting evacuees at a shelter in Chiba prefecture.

The emperor made a live television address five days after the twin disasters struck, saying he was praying for the country's safety. It was understood to have been the 77-year-old monarch's first live television address in his 22-year reign.

In Fukushima, the facility's operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) said Wednesday that some nuclear fuel rods in reactor No. 4 at the plant had been damaged, Kyodo reported.

A test on a water sample revealed evidence of radioactive iodine-131, cesium-134 and cesium-137 up to 100,000 times higher than normal. Work at the reactor, one of six, however was continuing.....

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04/14/100-safe-evacuation-center-destroyed-japan-tsunami/
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« Reply #493 on: April 14, 2011, 05:11:32 AM »
The presence of cesium-134 and cesium-137 indicates that fission took place in the fuel rod holding pools.
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Fresh nuke plant woes, as police search for bodies

TOKYO –  A new glitch in the cooling of used fuel at Japan's crippled nuclear plant prompted a surge in radiation, but an overall decline in leaks allowed police Thursday to search for missing tsunami victims closer to the complex than ever before.......

.....This week's glitch at the plant involved declining water levels at the pool for spent fuel rods in the Unit 4 reactor building. Water inadvertently sprayed into an overflow tank prompted a false reading that the main pool was full when it wasn't. That prompted workers to suspend the injection of water into the main pool for several days until Wednesday, when spraying resumed.

Strong aftershocks might also have affected the readings, officials said.

The suspension of spraying allowed temperatures and radiation levels to rise, though the rods were still believed to have been covered with water, said Hidehiko Nishiyama of Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.

"I believe fuel rods in the pool are largely intact, or still keeping the normal shape of what they should look like," Nishiyama said. "If they were totally messed up, we would have been looking at different sets of numbers from the water sampling."

A new burst of radiation this week leaking in Unit 4's fuel pool suggests damage to the fuel rods and complicates efforts to stabilize them, officials said. TEPCO manager Junichi Matsumoto said analysis of the pool's water detected higher levels of radioactive iodine-131, cesium-134 and cesium-137. Normally, those elements would not be found in the pool.

Three of the plant's reactors also have about 20,000 metric tons of stagnant, radiation-contaminated water and it is proving difficult to reduce the amount spilling from the reactors, Nishiyama said.

Until cooling systems can be fully restored, flooding the reactors with water is the only way to help prevent them from overheating, but those many tons of water, tainted with radioactivity, pose a separate threat.

"It is the problem of being stuck with reactors that constantly need to be fed water," Nishiyama said. Setbacks in preparing tanks to store the contaminated water mean new options may need to be considered, he said. He did not elaborate.

The beleaguered plant operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co., or TEPCO, is seeking ways to eventually remove spent fuel rods from reactor storage pools as the plant is closed down for good. The glitch at Unit 4 makes those plans more urgent.

Eventually the rods must be stored permanently in dry, radiation-proof casks, but that process is far off, he said.

TEPCO, meanwhile, is working to stabilize conditions at the plant's No. 1 reactor by pumping nitrogen into its containment vessel to reduce risks of a hydrogen explosion. It also is installing steel plates and silt screens along the coast to help reduce radiation leaks into the sea....

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04/13/spent-fuel-rods-add-trouble-japan-nuke-plant/
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #494 on: April 14, 2011, 09:01:48 AM »

Yep, we may as well start freaking out about all of our nuclear plants now...  In the last 2 decades, technology hasn't changed, regulations haven't changed, and people just don't care because coal and natural gas are SO much safer and far easier to replenish than nuclear...  (Sarcasm)

Try to tell the (former) residents of Centrailia, PA that coal is safer than nuclear.  

Natrual gas you say?  Enterprise Products Mont Belvieu (TX) facility may beg to differ on the safety of those plants.

Wind/solar power...  Worthless unless used in a small scale application.

Nuclear is still the most efficient and safest form of power production we have.  

Yeah, but Centrailia is a great place to go 4-wheeling, now  :rock
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