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Offline LCADolby

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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #90 on: March 27, 2011, 07:08:33 AM »
Wrong!!!

"I don't believe I have stated anything about my view of "The horde"."

HiTech (on: March 05, 2011, 11:27:02 AM)

I read many reasons posted regarding why HiTe.... BLAH BLAH BLAH  etc etc.
 
Opinion you say, here have mine :)

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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #91 on: March 27, 2011, 07:12:22 AM »
seems off topic Dolby, and you should at least buy me a drink before asking that question...

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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #92 on: March 27, 2011, 07:55:15 AM »
seems off topic Dolby, and you should at least buy me a drink before asking that question...

 :rofl
Touché ...  :lol  Glad to see you vGuys have a sense of humour
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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #93 on: March 27, 2011, 08:21:06 AM »
Well, at least some of us have a sense of humor. 

You know what the best thing about Aces High is?  The game is so intense, immersive and challenging it is easy to for me to take it to seriously.

You know what the worst thing about Aces High is?  The game is so intense, immersive and challenging it is easy to for others to take it to seriously.

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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #94 on: March 27, 2011, 08:44:56 AM »
Fugi
You keep thinking that way, you are going to go bald and loose your mind.

The average AHer comes in to a game that you have to admit, has a huge learning curve. Their only form of success in here is if they group up in huge gaggles and they gravitate to this style being as they have more confidence in staying alive.

Our saving grace is that a good percentage of these guys, if they stick around with their subscriptions eventually will get bored and as their confidence grows..move on to bigger and better things. True winning the war may have mass appeal the first 1000 times you see a reset, but after a while you come to terms with what you are doing to where it looses its shine.

Problem here is that they tune out any advice you give them. They see their mayhem as a positive thing contributing to their cause and the more you try to show them the way, the more fuel it adds to the fire and the longer it takes them to develop. These large mega squads often die off in a matter of a couple months. Either their roster shrinks from the 2weeker that ran troops for them just never showed up again or they move on and meet other squads that appeal more to their style of play.

History repeats itself over and over agian here. Take the hordes with a grain of salt and though some can easily be greifed by their actions, I find it very amusing that they think they are doing something different thats never been done before. As much as learning the basics in ACM is important to having fun in this game I do believe we also need to learn basics in gameplay. The guys that are truley successful are the ones that adapt to their enviroment and understand that you are going to get HOd/picked/vulched and learn to avoid them as well as countering them. We have many choices in this game to have fun.
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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #95 on: March 27, 2011, 10:14:34 AM »
Wrong!!!

"I don't believe I have stated anything about my view of "The horde"."

HiTech (on: March 05, 2011, 11:27:02 AM)

I read many reasons posted regarding why HiTech split the arena, and the horde wasn't amongst them.

All I hear is that you and a very vocal and very small minority don't like them.  Cite your sources if you want to state something as fact.  I'll cite you as as my source that most players don't dislike them, I'll make the assumption the the horde members don't disapprove of the horde, and your characterization of the "horde" is such that its members must grossly outnumber its non-members.

As for the rest of your post, you make claims that you have experience regarding a subject that you claim you do not participate in. You don't participate in hordes, yet you have intimate knowledge of their lack of planning.  I repeat my request, obtain a little experience with the horde, and you may find that your success with it improves with experience. 

As for the horde offering an environment for those with less skills to pool their efforts to find success vs. those with greater skills, I won't argue. I just don't get why its bad for the game.

So, get some experience, or get some sources, or at least be honest enough to state your opinion as "an opinion" and "yours".  By you're own admission, you know little or nothing of being a horde member, yet apparently are an expert on what one can experience as a member or planner of one.  I suggest you're clueless, and I'll state your previous post as my source...  Get over yourself dude

 




Well I'm sure I've read from one HTC representative or other that the "gangs" (which I take as hordes) were over running the arena, making it hard for new players to join in and make friends as they just mowed over base after base. Players too busy running in their "gangs" to help new players along the heavy learning curve of the game. Along with the over exuberant trash talk on 200 scaring away new players.

I've been playing this game for 10 years. I have intimate knowledge of hordes, the Mafia was one with 3 wings (2 full up, and one a "porker" wing with 6 guys in it, and yes we had a wing dedicated to porking bases, Hows that for planning?) Squad nights were twice a week and having 20 guys on was the norm (want to see the roster sheet I have when we took roll to see who was on?). As CO it was my "job" to make it a fun night for my squads and personally I didn't want to ruin other players fun. I would break up my squad into wings and have them hit 2 bases at once. Following CO of the Mafia did the same, Tzr, Mugz. Should we wanted base captures, but we didn't horde. We started fights and were just better than the opposition many nights. Other nights not so much, but thats the fun of the game. Todays horde is easy to know whats going on. Did you know you can NOT detune range channel? You can't help but know whats going on.

Your new here. The things your learning and will learn over the next 6 months many of us have have learned, tried, tested, and have since discarded. I've seen many people come and go.  Your squad will go the same way as many others as your people start getting bored with the "same old" stuff and start looking to expand your horizons and learn new skills. The BOPs were one of the biggest "hordes" around, they were VERY good. Their 5 wings flew 443 this month. The LCA was another "horde" they are still around but again are on the decline. Their 6 wings flew a total of 1259 hours this month. Your squad is this years "flavor of the month". Your 2 wings flew 2073 hours this month. We'll see how your doing next year.



Tralfz, I'm not going to loose my mind over this stuff. While I complain about it this game isn't my life. It's my entertainment. People complain about the movies they see, but most don't stop going to the movies do they? I think the horde hurts a new player. By hiding in the horde they get a false sense of security. They feel a false sense of skill. Their mistakes (which most people learn from) are covered by brute force. The horde doesn't "teach/train" new players, it just gives them a place to hide in. The game does have a big learning curve, but if your not getting shot down (because most people avoid the horde), you target still gets annihilated (even tho you miss most of the time), and the base is captured and congratulations are passed around (even tho you didn't do anything to help, because you missed your target, and you were cannon fodder so the "leaders" could make it through), why should you learn to get better?

Like I said, I'll change my way of playing and "play the way others want me to". I'm getting better at that rudder kick on the HO for the "deflection shot" some are so good at. Instead of looking for good fights I'll gang the nearest con, not worry about all those Run90s and ponys that like to flee instead of fight. I'll bombs GVs just to piss them off and rack up kills the best I can.   

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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #96 on: March 27, 2011, 11:22:23 AM »
I'm not so new here as you imagine.  I played Air Warrior form from 1995 to 2001, and Aces High from 2001 through 2006.  Though I have just recently returned to the game. 

Again, all you have is what you say you heard some guy say that you claim is from HTC.   I provided a source, one of undeniable authority, and a quote.  All you offer is your opinion that you attempt to present as fact, while offering a fantasy that your feelings are shared by HTC.  Yes this game is all about fantasy, but can't we try just a wee bit to inject a little reality in the forums?

And as for how you play the game, no need to change. You're not that important, and we don't really care how you enjoy you $15.
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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #97 on: March 27, 2011, 03:36:36 PM »
Making broad yet definitive statements about how hordes "always" operate isn't very fair.

I have seen hordes that are loaded with people who don't seem to know the game well yet or have much skill at the fundamental aspects of the game.  I have also seen hordes operate like clockwork and with great discipline.  It really depends on who all is participating in the horde.

I will commend Chewie, Falcon23 and Ghi for their ability to lead hordes and you can see their training methods here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_MaJDK3VNE

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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #98 on: March 27, 2011, 04:06:36 PM »
If the v's really want to show their worth....Fly in the scenarios.

Thats where true worth and ability is proven.

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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #99 on: March 27, 2011, 04:54:41 PM »
I'm pretty sure flying in a scenario is absolutely worthless to the MA.
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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #100 on: March 27, 2011, 04:59:15 PM »
 :bhead   I feel like a point was missed.
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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #101 on: March 27, 2011, 05:00:21 PM »
Forgot....M18....Beau....That is all
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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #102 on: March 27, 2011, 05:40:51 PM »
Ping

I didn't miss your point, it was just off topic and irrelevant to the discussion at hand. 
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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #103 on: March 27, 2011, 06:26:36 PM »
dallas called me a pixie yesterday ,  I have magic fuel and ammo   :lol

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Re: Rook Horde
« Reply #104 on: March 27, 2011, 06:30:41 PM »
Dallas is a real gem.
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