Base capture

[grizz441]

Is it considered avoidance of combat if you set your course at an undefended base assuming that defenders will up?  They typically do up, so it seems like a reasonable assumption. 

[VonMessa]

Skull on fire

 

One sitting or multiple?   

[Wiley]

Skull on fire

 

Heh, you tattoo guys are definitely different from me...  I don't believe Mrs. Wiley has ever made a comment akin to 'Y'know what would really improve the appearance down here?  A flaming skull.'

More power to you though.  Without people getting good work done, we wouldn't have people trying to copy it and have websites showing some of the truly heinous work out there for laughs.

Wiley.

[EskimoJoe]

Heh, you tattoo guys are definitely different from me...  I don't believe Mrs. Wiley has ever made a comment akin to 'Y'know what would really improve the appearance down here?  A flaming skull.'

More power to you though.  Without people getting good work done, we wouldn't have people trying to copy it and have websites showing some of the truly heinous work out there for laughs.

Wiley.

He never said it was a flaming skull, he just said skull on fire...
So, if you think about it... 

[fullmetalbullet]

The thrill is the fight but since you don't or know how to fight, you've never enjoyed the thrill of aerial combat and sadly probably will never will.


ack-ack

i have and done it many times in many flight sims. its boring to me now. because the thrill is not there anymore i get more of a thrill by causing chaos and destroying an opponents combat capabilities and ultimately winning and winning as a team. just knowing that i helped win is more satisfying then going out, and dogfighting. i can dogfight, but its pointless to me now as an enjoyable occupation of time. i get my kicks out of beating an opponent and watching him rip his hair out in frustration because i outwhited him in a strategic and tactical way. i joined the devils brigade because they offered teamwork and the ability to always work as a team to win fights, and win the battle. that is more enjoyable then say only dogfighting.

[68ZooM]

when your squad is down to one wing you might figure it out,just might... untill then fly around with your blinders on

[Dead Man Flying]

i have and done it many times in many flight sims.

Against computer pilots, maybe.  Otherwise I think you're stretching the truth.

[fullmetalbullet]

when your squad is down to one wing you might figure it out,just might... untill then fly around with your blinders on

then ill just go back to flying bombers. dogfighting in general really offers nothing to me and my enjoyment. i play this game because i love working as a team and winning as a team but i also love flying these planes(WW2 planes) that is my enjoyment. back when i would play blitzkrieg i used to and still get a big kick out of outsmarting and causing chaos and frustration to my opponent. i never played fair and i never played on someone elses terms. but i did it as a team with my friends and people that i knew. i didnt care really about coming in first place but i cared more about helping my team win. and in this game with the ability to win and win as a team that is what i am going to do help my team win. i can care less about dogfighting with no goal what so ever. and soon you guys will relize this to. when you find that nobody is trying to win nobody is organizing then you will get people that will want to organize and try and win. that is called working together as a team. gathering your team and doing something i,e winning.

[Soulyss]

Thinking that dog fighting and furballing doesn't promote or even require teamwork is a very myopic view.  Just like base captures which can either be organized or disorganized a dogfight can be one or the other and just like base captures the more organized team, the group that works well together is going to have a much higher success rate.

[Oldman731]

i get my kicks out of beating an opponent and watching him rip his hair out in frustration because i outwhited him in a strategic and tactical way.

Are your AH opponents reacting this way?

- oldman (just wondered)

[fullmetalbullet]

Thinking that dog fighting and furballing doesn't promote or even require teamwork is a very myopic view.  Just like base captures which can either be organized or disorganized a dogfight can be one or the other and just like base captures the more organized team, the group that works well together is going to have a much higher success rate.

in furballs you rarly ever see your teamate set up an opponent for another teamate to shoot down. i remeber a few weeks ago i set up 2 bandits for luna and jazzi to shoot down, i pulled up luna and jazzi dove down and they each got a kill. thats teamwork. although i didnt relize is was setting them up at the time but i set them up perfectly to get shot down by friendlies. most of your dogfights in furballs from what i have seem is someone picking out a target and going one on one. and when someone jumps in to help they person gets mad about it saying you stole my kill.

[68ZooM]

then ill just go back to flying bombers. dogfighting in general really offers nothing to me and my enjoyment. i play this game because i love working as a team and winning as a team but i also love flying these planes(WW2 planes) that is my enjoyment. back when i would play blitzkrieg i used to and still get a big kick out of outsmarting and causing chaos and frustration to my opponent. i never played fair and i never played on someone elses terms. but i did it as a team with my friends and people that i knew. i didnt care really about coming in first place but i cared more about helping my team win. and in this game with the ability to win and win as a team that is what i am going to do help my team win. i can care less about dogfighting with no goal what so ever. and soon you guys will relize this to. when you find that nobody is trying to win nobody is organizing then you will get people that will want to organize and try and win. that is called working together as a team. gathering your team and doing something i,e winning.

all i get from you is "winning" but what are you winning?   what a new map thats been in rotation for years and years?   perk points?  this game is more than just "furrballin©", " Hordin©" (insert all the other terms)  one aspect of the game feeds all the others, dogfighting is what made this game, im not talking about furrballing thats mindless drivel that gets boring real quick, im talking about dogfighting, when sides attack each other and battle it out to see who either keeps the base or they lose the base, bombers used to try to drop hangers during these big base taking fights, sometimes they did, sometimes they never made it to there target, base taking fights would spawn some of the most intense GV battles you ever seen THAT's what this game used to be, its still a very fun game but its long from what it used to be,  winning to me is having fun without taking away the other players fun, its a fine edge to balance on but it works for me, thats why i play all roles in this game, score means nothing and rank means nothing to me simply because in the real world it means zip zero nada

[fullmetalbullet]

all i get from you is "winning" but what are you winning?   what a new map thats been in rotation for years and years?   perk points?  this game is more than just "furrballin©", " Hordin©" (insert all the other terms)  one aspect of the game feeds all the others, dogfighting is what made this game, im not talking about furrballing thats mindless drivel that gets boring real quick, im talking about dogfighting, when sides attack each other and battle it out to see who either keeps the base or they lose the base, bombers used to try to drop hangers during these big base taking fights, sometimes they did, sometimes they never made it to there target, base taking fights would spawn some of the most intense GV battles you ever seen THAT's what this game used to be, its still a very fun game but its long from what it used to be,  winning to me is having fun without taking away the other players fun, its a fine edge to balance on but it works for me, thats why i play all roles in this game, score means nothing and rank means nothing to me simply because in the real world it means zip zero nada

exactly what i mean. in a base taking yeah dogfighting is good but furballing is pointless. and im the same way points score perks mean nothing to me what so ever kills dont mean a thing to me either. i would love to see more and more people get together and work as a team. but go off mindlessly into a furball. frankly maybe because i come from the strategic games i feel that people who furball dont know what teamwork and organizing is and they dont really know what its like to be on the recieving end of someones stategic and tactical push. i reccomend for thos furballers to play games like blitzkrieg and see if you can achieve the win all by yourself in a 2v2 and 3v3. just going out and dogfighting in a furball is pointless to me, its offers no strategic and tactical gains for your team. but dogfighting as a team and working together thats the more enjoyable aspect. i can dogfight but going one on one and furballing is just pointless to me. it offers no fun for me what so ever. being able to set up opponent for my teamates to kill and my teamates setting up someone for me to kill thats more fun. it shows trust and teamwork.

[Ack-Ack]

i have and done it many times in many flight sims. its boring to me now.

That's usually the response from those that lack the skill and testicle fortitude to engage in A2A combat.  Like I said, it's not surprising you and your squadron mates feel the way you do.  If I couldn't fly a fighter and didn't have the skills to understand and use ACM, I'd look for other venues that didn't take as much skill or testical fortitude to enjoy.

ack-ack

[1Boner]

Oh jeeez!!

More "avoiding combat" and "skills" talk???