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Offline Delirium

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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #120 on: April 04, 2011, 04:25:03 PM »
Just when I thought the attitudes couldn't get any worse on these forums... creating jokes about the hungry?
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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #121 on: April 04, 2011, 04:26:11 PM »
Just when I thought the attitudes couldn't get any worse on these forums... creating jokes about the hungry?

Seems to be acceptable behavior  :rolleyes:
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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #122 on: April 04, 2011, 04:37:53 PM »
The comments in this thread disturb me greatly.  I can't believe so many make fun of those less fortunate.  There are those that say that Americans are obese?  Is that to assume that all of us are?  And all of those that are hungry could benefit from not eating?  Shame, just a shame.  Last time I looked around here, the obese are a minority, not to be even brought up here.  But the hungery are all around.  Next time you joke, I hope you make fun of your own situation.  I doubt you will, it isn't any fun.
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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #123 on: April 04, 2011, 04:53:40 PM »
The comments in this thread disturb me greatly.  I can't believe so many make fun of those less fortunate.  There are those that say that Americans are obese?  Is that to assume that all of us are?  And all of those that are hungry could benefit from not eating?  Shame, just a shame.  Last time I looked around here, the obese are a minority, not to be even brought up here.  But the hungery are all around.  Next time you joke, I hope you make fun of your own situation.  I doubt you will, it isn't any fun.

Just wait till their down on their luck, then well see who has the last laugh.
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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #124 on: April 04, 2011, 05:10:16 PM »
Just wait till their down on their luck, then well see who has the last laugh.

Well, you all seem to be making the (unfounded) suppostion thaat, in the US, poverty and hunger correlate.

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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #125 on: April 04, 2011, 05:28:38 PM »
3 million give or take 304 million-ish.

lol...   Roughly 300 million.   Changes the math a bit.  Don't it.

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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #126 on: April 04, 2011, 05:55:13 PM »
The social safety net that has been erected over the last forty-five years makes it almost impossible for anyone who is down on their luck to not qualify for some sort of public or charity assistance.  It would seem that anyone who would go hungry does so either from ignorance of the system or pride.

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« Reply #127 on: April 04, 2011, 06:43:08 PM »
The social safety net that has been erected over the last forty-five years makes it almost impossible for anyone who is down on their luck to not qualify for some sort of public or charity assistance.  It would seem that anyone who would go hungry does so either from ignorance of the system or pride.

Right, and if you look at my link above, you'll see that obesity actually correlates with poverty. Mind, no one has posited causation, but to my mind this is part and parcel of the same problem you'll see if you take a drive down Mt. Elliott in Day-twa, for example. There's lots of stuff there, all in a state of horrible, unblinking, uncaring, uncomprehending neglect.

Of course, some will say that this is a second-person problem - the poor tend obese because they haven't been properly taught. I ask, if person A's state is the responsibility of Person B, who is then responsible for Person B? Or, is this not a formula for asymmetry; dependency on one side and obligation on the other? How can that square with equality before the law as an individual, a fundament of Western legal tradition - never mind individual responsibility?

I pose that all as a philosophical question - related to problem solving, not as political prescription, of which I've been careful to offer none. I don't really care t ofix this mess since  Ididn't make it. Kipling has already promised it a healthy does of terror and slaughter. 
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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #128 on: April 04, 2011, 06:56:55 PM »
Right, and if you look at my link above, you'll see that obesity actually correlates with poverty. Mind, no one has posited causation, but to my mind this is part and parcel of the same problem you'll see if you take a drive down Mt. Elliott in Day-twa, for example. There's lots of stuff there, all in a state of horrible, unblinking, uncaring, uncomprehending neglect.

Of course, some will say that this is a second-person problem - the poor tend obese because they haven't been properly taught. I ask, if person A's state is the responsibility of Person B, who is then responsible for Person B? Or, is this not a formula for asymmetry; dependency on one side and obligation on the other? How can that square with equality before the law as an individual, a fundament of Western legal tradition - never mind individual responsibility?

I pose that all as a philosophical question - related to problem solving, not as political prescription, of which I've been careful to offer none. I don't really care t ofix this mess since  Ididn't make it. Kipling has already promised it a healthy does of terror and slaughter. 

My experience is that its a combo of ignorance and time.

Many of the working poor have more than 1 job, and effectively work much more than 40 hours a week (although not 40 hours at either job), and thus "quick" on the go food like McDonalds is chosen option. Also, many don't know or don't care that their chosen diet is bad.
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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #129 on: April 04, 2011, 07:24:19 PM »
Right, and if you look at my link above, you'll see that obesity actually correlates with poverty. Mind, no one has posited causation, but to my mind this is part and parcel of the same problem you'll see if you take a drive down Mt. Elliott in Day-twa, for example. There's lots of stuff there, all in a state of horrible, unblinking, uncaring, uncomprehending neglect.

Of course, some will say that this is a second-person problem - the poor tend obese because they haven't been properly taught. I ask, if person A's state is the responsibility of Person B, who is then responsible for Person B? Or, is this not a formula for asymmetry; dependency on one side and obligation on the other? How can that square with equality before the law as an individual, a fundament of Western legal tradition - never mind individual responsibility?

I pose that all as a philosophical question - related to problem solving, not as political prescription, of which I've been careful to offer none. I don't really care t ofix this mess since  Ididn't make it. Kipling has already promised it a healthy does of terror and slaughter. 

Add relinquishing people from the responsibility of their own health and the problem redoubles....

We are reduced to a two tiered society of providers and entitled.  The providers become the enslaved of the entitled up until the point where the providers give up and join the entitled.  At which time society collapses...

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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #130 on: April 04, 2011, 07:28:27 PM »
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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #131 on: April 04, 2011, 07:32:29 PM »
Add relinquishing people from the responsibility of their own health and the problem redoubles....

We are reduced to a two tiered society of providers and entitled.  The providers become the enslaved of the entitled up until the point where the providers give up and join the entitled.  At which time society collapses...

So your mind, everyone with jobs makes more than enough money?

What about people who do work but they can't get jobs that provide enough income, are they "the providers" or are they "the entitled"?
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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #132 on: April 04, 2011, 07:35:06 PM »
So your mind, everyone with jobs makes more than enough money?

What about people who do work but they can't get jobs that provide enough income, are they "the providers" or are they "the entitled"?


Sounds to me that you have already decided that they are entitled.

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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #133 on: April 04, 2011, 09:36:59 PM »
Sounds to me that you have already decided that they are entitled.

Ahh, I get it,  so humans have no worth and everyone in need is expendable as they drag you down. Well I hope you shoot yourself in the face when your down on your luck because you'll just be burden on the rest of us and worthless too.
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Re: 1 in 6 Americans are hungry!
« Reply #134 on: April 04, 2011, 09:56:22 PM »
I apologize if it appears I was taking hunger lightly but in fact I question those stats and don't believe 50 MILLION Americans fight hunger. My own town is typical, and we have a population of 15,000 people. Breakfast and lunch is provided daily to schoolchildren form underpaid or poor people. We have an active food bank supported generously by the community, We have two shelters that provide hot meals every evening. As a matter of fact I have yet to hear of a single person dying of starvation due to unavailability of food in my community, nor an any other, not counting willful cruelty that results in starvation of a victim.

I would really like the people who believe 50 million Americans go hungry to site their sources for arriving at those statistics...all I saw was a highway sign stating that as fact but call me skeptical, I'm not buying it. Please, show me your unbiased links.