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Offline CAP1

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Re: Oil ?
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2011, 06:59:48 AM »
FYI eskimo aint even a real eskimo, and fer dam sure I aint voting for him.at least for any office in alaska.

boy.....i sure wish they'd drill in nj, and do this........
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14935745/ns/us_news-wonderful_world/

especially combined with the fact of no income taxes(from what i;ve heard, no state income tax)

that being said, as i mentioned above, i had forgotten about the exxon valdez when i made that statement. but then that was one major thing in how many years?
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Re: Oil ?
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2011, 10:47:12 AM »
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I agree we need alternate fuels....but we need Oil now!  Not just because of price but because of availability!

:Environmentalist:  Stop drilling! Let's go all electric immediately!
:Realist:  OK....let's spend 50K on an automobile that has a 40 mile range! Great idea if you don't have to go to a destination over 20 miles!
              What are you going to recharge the batteries with?  Ding Ding Electricity!  generated by Coal or Atomic power Einstein neither of
              which you want! And what are we going to do with the Batteries when they are no longer rechargable??   Eat'em?
:Environmentalist:  Solar Power and wind power!  Now......
:Realist:  Hey Einstein remember the issue of batteries I brought up?  Ya need'em for both.  Better have a zillion windmills and lots of wind too!
             And we gotta get 3500 mile extension cords to the Solar panels for states that don't have a great deal of Sun for half the year!
             got any other suggestions for Energy that we can use now?  Or within the next 20 years?

:Environmentalist:  Geothermal!
:Realist:  Good idea if ya live on top of Mt. Vesuvius or Krokatoa....Hey....we can move the entire population of the US to Yellowstone!

:Environmentalist:  guess I better get realistic eh?
:Realist: For the next 20 to 30 years I'd say so.
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Re: Oil ?
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2011, 10:54:49 AM »
The best way to ease our dependence on foreign oil is to tap our vast reserves of natural gas to power our vehicles. In fact you can get an attachment that hooks into your garage natural gas line and fill up your car yourself and avoid all the road excise taxes associated with gasoline. That would be the single most thing we could do to help, but we also burn oil for electrical generation so we need more nuclear power generation. So called "alternative" energy systems aren't economically viable, and for solar you'd have to have an array the size of a football field to power the typical house. Wind power has been discovered to be a hazard to birds, and doesn't generate enough power to be operated without subsidies. Coal is a gross polluter. (BTW, coal is the most heavily subsidized power we have, which seems to be the name of the game)

The next big power boondoggle will be "Woody Biomass." The Dept. of Energy is giving away 21 million dollar grants to build one, provided you're well connected politically. They claim it's carbon neutral based upon the trees they'll burn for the power are renewable, but woody biomass releases the worst types of particulates into the air and is even dirtier than coal.

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Re: Oil ?
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2011, 10:55:26 AM »
All for it, it'll buy us enough time to come up with something better.  The only problem I see is running out of room to dispose of it safely, but apparently you can drop it through the ocean floor by heating it up.

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There's so much room it's not even funny.  Stick it in buried concrete containment vessels and be done with it.  It will eventually get out but that crap has a half life.  It came from the earth it can go back into the earth.

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Re: Oil ?
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2011, 10:56:34 AM »
There's so much room it's not even funny.  Stick it in buried concrete containment vessels and be done with it.  It will eventually get out but that crap has a half life.  It came from the earth it can go back into the earth.

Well then, nuclear all the way!  (Until we need more uranium/plutonium/thorium).

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Re: Oil ?
« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2011, 01:12:34 PM »
Well then, nuclear all the way!  (Until we need more uranium/plutonium/thorium).

-Penguin
where we gona bury it? Japan? you can only contain so much waste in a finite space before \that space is ful. Then, you need to maintain the holding cells for the waste.and if not done properly can leak into your food or water supply. We'll be like the Kids of the WWII Hiroshima / Nagasaki survivors. a lot more goes into something then meets the eye.



kind of ironic, we were just talkin about this stuf for the past two weeks because of Japan in science.
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Re: Oil ?
« Reply #51 on: April 03, 2011, 01:34:57 PM »
Isn't there this nifty waste storage facility somewhere on Yucca Mountain that they aren't allowed to use. :noid
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Re: Oil ?
« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2011, 04:45:55 PM »
Isn't there this nifty waste storage facility somewhere on Yucca Mountain that they aren't allowed to use. :noid
theres a nifty waste storage somewhere i know for a fasct, dont know where...but its leaking due to lack of maitnence. lot of good its doing us.
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Re: Oil ?
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2011, 03:55:42 AM »
When gas costs  a gallon we'll see if you back off that stance.   :aok

We pay way more than 8 dollars per gallon right now (closer to 10) but then we are a major oil producer :) No uprising or chaos. :)