FSO: Fully shafted, over.

[elc7367b]

I am still looking for the wording somewhere.  When I was the CIC I remember reading that each target needed to be hit with a reasonable force to allow the defenders of said target to have fun.  If it is simply each target must be assigned an attack group, then, say if there are 8 targets, 5 could be hit with a force of 3 to 4 attackers and the other 3 hoarded.  Is that right?  Somewhere I remember reading it wasnt.

PS:  I am not attempting to slam anyone.  I know that a lot of effort goes forth in setting these things up.  However, if something isnt right lets work on fixing it.  Based on what I read there were a lot of targets that had marginal attackers or no attackers at all.

Muttman

[killrDan]

It was also never written in the setup or the objectives that X number of B-29s had to hit each target, it was just by the nature of the design that B-29s had to hit multiple targets in Frame 1 and 2...

Just a suggestion here Nef, perhaps things would have gone better if you had specified X targets must be hit by a minimum of Y B-29's each.  Looking back at the logs, it appears that 4
allied squads with a total of 41 pilots upped B-29's and flew to directly Tokyo.  I haven't adjusted for discos etc but by all accounts, both Japanese and Allied, it was a pig pile.

We're all human and make mistakes so it's all fine with me.  watermelon happens and it's over.  Let's just chalk it up as a learning experience.  The main thing is to bear what happened here in mind in future FSO setups.  Someone needs to make a note of this somewhere.  All things considered it was a fun event and we appreciate your efforts in setting this up.  <S>

[ROC]

Then you failed to correct him when you had plenty of time to do so.

Quite frankly, you are incorrect in this assumption.  It is not likely that the admin is going to read every forum, every thread, and every subject to figure out who is full of hot air and who is correct.  It is, however, completely practical that every player pay attention to the single and only person who is there to clarify a decision, and that is the Designer.

All anyone needs to do is go to the single source for clarifications.  Far more practical than said single source fielding through countless discussions.

[96Delta]

We're all human and make mistakes so it's all fine with me.  Chit happens and it's over.  Let's just chalk it up as a learning experience.  The main thing is to bear what happened here in mind in future FSO setups.  Someone needs to make a note of this somewhere.  All things considered it was a fun event and we appreciate your efforts in setting this up.  <S>

Ditto

Thanks for dealing with all these headaches Nefarious.
I truly sympathize with you and greatly appreciate your efforts.

[snakeplissken]

I join Delta.  Thanks for designing the event.  FSO is what it is... Flying without meeting the enemy and it happens in the world of cartoon planes.   

[j500ss]

I agree with Delta and Plissken as well.  Flying without meeting the enemy happens to us all at somepoint every now and again, and it happened in real life as well.  We came, we saw, we learned, now we move on with those lessons.  Thanks for the hard work Nef  and all involved behind the scenes with FSO's   


J

[Dichotomy]

I'm in agreement with Delta, plissken, and j500, as well.  Sure I could have chalked it up as a 'boring' night or I could quietly, behind the scenes, voice my frustration in an intelligent and well thought out manner.  I'll just file this one as 'it happens' and drive on. 

I've had plenty of FSO's where my side was overwhelmed with enemies, plenty where it was 'perfect', and very few (I can count on one hand) 'boring'.

[PFactorDave]

Quite frankly, you are incorrect in this assumption.  It is not likely that the admin is going to read every forum, every thread, and every subject to figure out who is full of hot air and who is correct.  It is, however, completely practical that every player pay attention to the single and only person who is there to clarify a decision, and that is the Designer.

All anyone needs to do is go to the single source for clarifications.  Far more practical than said single source fielding through countless discussions.

Seeing how he posted 5 times in the same thread AFTER Ghostdancer posted what he posted, I think it is perfectly reasonable for him to have corrected what another CM stated.

[whiteman]

Seeing how he posted 5 times in the same thread AFTER Ghostdancer posted what he posted, I think it is perfectly reasonable for him to have corrected what another CM stated.

get real man, how many people read every single post in every thread they reply to? if you do you have to much time on your hands and your starting sound like a cry baby, everyone runs into nights they don't see much action if you haven't before then lucky you. For us it's fest or famine in FSO.

[PFactorDave]

everyone runs into nights they don't see much action if you haven't before then lucky you. For us it's fest or famine in FSO.

I never said I didn't see any action, but I guess you didn't bother reading the whole thread.  I just think that the setup was FUBAR, because we had CMs telling people things that apparently wasn't the case.

[whiteman]

I never said I didn't see any action, but I guess you didn't bother reading the whole thread.  I just think that the setup was FUBAR, because we had CMs telling people things that apparently wasn't the case.

one whine per thread is enough for me then i look for more interesting posts.

[snakeplissken]

For my squad it was "Veni Vichi Vermini"  We came, We saw, We got ratz (drunk) and none of the guys got a DUI.  If you haven't realized it yet, HTC is a genius.  He has invented a chat board with something to do... I hung out with my friends on Friday night and told jokes.... It was a great time. 

[AKKuya]

For those who like to point out all the "tiny" mistakes is FSO design, then please volunteer to become a CM and you can design to your perfection.  For those who like to point out all the "tiny" mistakes in CIC orders, then please VOLUNTEER to be a CIC EACH FRAME and you can plan the orders to your perfection.

War is fluid.

[442w30]

For those who like to point out all the "tiny" mistakes is FSO design, then please volunteer to become a CM and you can design to your perfection.  For those who like to point out all the "tiny" mistakes in CIC orders, then please VOLUNTEER to be a CIC EACH FRAME and you can plan the orders to your perfection.

War is fluid.

People who "know everything" never...NEVER... volunteer to do the work.  Because if they did, they would be subject to the same criticism that they enjoy handing out to others.

[Wagger]

People who "know everything" never...NEVER... volunteer to do the work.  Because if they did, they would be subject to the same criticism that they enjoy handing out to others.

Good thing I'm not the CM.  Oh and no I don't want the head ache.  If I were the CM you would get your target and plane assignments.  After that it would be up to the CIC to determine what targets are to be hit and and by what size of force.  Targets would be assigned a priority as to its importance as determined by intelligence reports.  And yes intelligence reports will not always be accurate.  Puts some of the fog of war in the game.  Oh and can I hear the complaints now.  There were hundreds of fighters and bombers over our target.  We flew all night and did not see anything.  We hit our target and did not see any air cover. etc., etc., etc.  God would that be fun.  Almost like real life.